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FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Post by wyldberry »

epistasis wrote: post #278
wyldberry wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a good thing FBI has capacity to do more than one thing at a time. Also Trump agreed to allow MNPD to handle the wrongful death investigation. Two things can be true: the "resistance" rings in MN are behaving like the insurgents the US has fought for decades in the Middle East, and ICE agents wrongfully killed a man.

> the "resistance" rings in MN are behaving like the insurgents the US has fought for decades in the Middle East This is a horrifying and very unpariortic thing to say about people who are trying to prevent their daycares from being tear bombed, prevent masked thugs from beating detained law-abiding citizens before releasing them without charges, from masked thugs killing law-abiding people for exercising basic right…

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Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Post by kergonath »

wyldberry wrote: post #268
chinathrow wrote: post #212

The FBI should investigate the murders done by ICE and until done with that, remain silent.

It's a good thing FBI has capacity to do more than one thing at a time. Also Trump agreed to allow MNPD to handle the wrongful death investigation. Two things can be true: the "resistance" rings in MN are behaving like the insurgents the US has fought for decades in the Middle East, and ICE agents wrongfully killed a man.

You have an occupation force killing bystanders in your streets. Resistance is exactly what is needed.

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Post by lateforwork »

epistasis wrote: post #257
chinathrow wrote: post #212

The FBI should investigate the murders done by ICE and until done with that, remain silent.

And importantly the DoJ attorneys who would be responsible for investigating g the murders resigned because they were prevented from performing the standard procedure investigation that happens after every single shooting. They were instead directed to investigate the family of the person who was shot: https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/nyt-6-federal-prosecutor... We are through the looking glass, folks. This will b…

> unless we demand answers from Congress, and hold SCOTUS responsible for partisan abdication of their constitutional duties.

You can demand answers from Congress, but until a significant portion of the GOP base demands answers, they are just going to ignore your demands. As of now 39% of Americans support the administration. Also, you can't hold SCOTUS responsible, only Congress can.

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Post by SauciestGNU »

Analemma_ wrote: post #279
hollandheese wrote: post #249

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The police (FBI and ICE included) are never your friends. They work to protect the rich and powerful and not us.

Cynical responses like this are meant to make the speaker sound smart, but actually what you're doing is making further tyranny more likely, because you're deliberately overlooking that-- whatever the existing problems with the FBI-- there is a significant difference between their behavior now and their behavior before. Not even bothering to run the established investigation playbook when law enforcement kills a civi…

Furthermore, going back as far as I remember, if you take part in a protest the police personally disagree with they will use violence against you regardless of your occupation.

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Post by Jugglewhoa »

wyldberry wrote: post #285
shafyy wrote: post #273

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They are running communications rings geographically distributed across the city via Signal. They organize into specialized roles for identifying suspected agents (spotters), tailing them, and moving to contact with ICE. They use the ARMY SALUTE[0][1] method to handle their reports. Anyone who ran convoys in the Middle East, patrolled, or did intel around it will know this playbook. The resistance is impressive becau…

So i wonder why he people of the city would act the same way as a group being invaded by a hostile force? Just like the Middle east its the people being invaded, they are the problem, not the invaders.

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Post by kergonath »

tbrownaw wrote: post #296

> Patel said he got the idea for the investigation from Higby. This is confirmation that this wasn't being investigated until just now. This is surprising, I would have thought that "how are these people organizing" would have been an obvious thing to look into.

> I would have thought that "how are these people organizing" would have been an obvious thing to look into.

You assume competence. Have you heard (or heard of) Kash Patel?

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Post by smrtinsert »

asdfman123 wrote: post #292
hollandheese wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The police (FBI and ICE included) are never your friends. They work to protect the rich and powerful and not us.

Software engineers are definitely among the class of people protected by the police

There is no protected class from malevolent government. Everyone from oligarchs down to the have nots can be targets. Let's not keep relearning that lesson.

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Post by filoeleven »

nielsbot wrote: post #220
jatora wrote: post #150

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If ICE agents were actually in danger or subject to "vigilante justice", the administration would be CROWING about it SO LOUDLY we'd never hear the end of it. They're spending their entire working days searching for evidence of it. They can't hardly wait! That's not what is happening here.

s/searching for/manufacturing

Remember, they're accusing the people they killed of heinous motives for their narrative. They can't find it, so they make it up. Keep filming, y'all.

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