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Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Is the app legitimate though? A few of these apps that deal with LLMs seem too good to be true and end up asking for suspiciously powerful API tokens in my experience (looking at Happy Coder).

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #3

Motivation for rename: https://x.com/moltbot/status/2016058924403753024 https://xcancel.com/moltbot/status/2016058924403753024

Seems like an official ClaudeBot from Anthropic is in the works, then?

They already use the name ClaudeBot for their web crawler:

https://support.claude.com/en/articles/8896518-does-anthropi...

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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This project terrifies me.

On the one hand it really is very cool, and a lot of people are reporting great results using it. It helped someone negotiate with car dealers to buy a car! https://aaronstuyvenberg.com/posts/clawd-bought-a-car

But it's an absolute perfect storm for prompt injection and lethal trifecta attacks: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/16/the-lethal-trifecta/

People are hooking this thing up to Telegram and their private notes and their Gmail and letting it loose. I cannot see any way that doesn't end badly.

I'm seeing a bunch of people buy a separate Mac Mini to run this on, under the idea that this will at least stop it from destroying their main machine. That's fine... but then they hook that new Mac Mini up to their Gmail and iMessage accounts, at which point they've opened up a bunch of critical data.

This is classic Normalization of Deviance: https://embracethered.com/blog/posts/2025/the-normalization-... - every time someone gets away with running this kind of unsafe system without having their data stolen they'll become more confident that it's OK to keep on using it like this.

Here's Sam Altman in yesterday's OpenAI Town Hall admitting that he runs Codex in YOLO mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpxv-8nG8ec&t=2330s

And that will work out fine... until it doesn't.

(I should note that I've been predicting a headline-grabbing prompt injection attack in the next six months every six months for over two years now and it still hasn't happened.)

Update: here's a report of someone uploading a "skill" to the https://clawdhub.com/ shared skills marketplace that demonstrates (but thankfully does not abuse) remote code execution on anyone who installed it: https://twitter.com/theonejvo/status/2015892980851474595 / https://xcancel.com/theonejvo/status/2015892980851474595

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #23

Is the app legitimate though? A few of these apps that deal with LLMs seem too good to be true and end up asking for suspiciously powerful API tokens in my experience (looking at Happy Coder).

It's legitimate, but its also extremely powerful and people tend to run it in very insecure ways or ways where their computer is wiped. Numerous examples and stories on X.

I used it for a bit, but it burned through tokens (even after the token fix) and it uses tokens for stuff that could be handled by if/then statements and APIs without burning a ton of tokens.

But it's a very neat and imperfect glimpse at the future.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #9

The way trademarks work is that if you don't actively defend them you weaken your rights. So Anthropic needs to defend their ownership of "Claude". I'm guessing they reached out to Peter Steinberger and asked nicely that he rename Clawdbot.

Last year in my area, a food truck decided to call itself Leggo My Egg Roll, and obvious play on Eggo waffles tagline.

Kellogg sent them a cease and desist, they decided to ignore it. Kellogg then offered to pay them to rebrand, they still wouldn’t.

They then sued for $15 million.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #20

A bit OT but why is moltbot so much more popular than the many personal agents that have been around for a while?

The only context I've heard about it has been when the Mac Mini clusters associated with it were brought up. Perhaps it's the imagery of that.

Yeah makes sense. Something about giving an agent its own physical computer and being able to text it instructions like a personal assistant just clicks more than “run an agent in a sandbox”.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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It sounds nice at a first glance, but how useful is it actually? Anyone got real, non-hypothetical use cases that outweigh the risks?

My experience. I have it running on my desktop with voice to text with an API token from groq, so I communicate with it in WhatsApp audios. I Have app codes for my Fastmail and because it has file access can optimize my Obsidian notes. I have it send me a morning brief with my notes, appointments and latest emails. And of course I have it speaking like I am some middle age Castillian Lord.
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