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Re: Ask HN: What's the Point Anymore?

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Post by kouteiheika »

worldsavior wrote: post #14

People still appreciate human art. People don't appreciate AI art because it's fake. If you enjoy AI art, you're probably fake and have no appreciation. That's my take. Just remember that AI can not create art, it can only remember art. AI is not a human, AI is a probabilistic function.

> If you enjoy AI art, you're probably fake and have no appreciation. That's my take.

I enjoy AI art. I don't enjoy AI slop. There's a fundamental difference between the two. It's true that the Internet is flooded with low-effort AI slop, but AI is just a tool like any other, and you can create real art with it. It just takes skill.

Here's an experiment: try visiting CivitAI's featured images page[1] and then tell me with a straight face that you'd classify none of those images as art.

[1] - https://civitai.com/images

Re: Ask HN: What's the Point Anymore?

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Post by embedding-shape »

tbyehl wrote: post #24
embedding-shape wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> AI is a change in perspective of our entire society, how it works, and what we define to be human or human-made creation. There are two things you're mixing here. One is how others use AI, the other is how you use AI. No one forcing you to consume content made by AI that you think suck, just turn it off if you don't like it. Seems really doomsday-like to proclaim "The end goal of AI is to abolish all work possible"…

> just turn it off if you don't like it. How? Or do you mean, like, stop using the Internet entirely?

Notice that it's bad/slop/shit, turn it off, do something else.

If you don't notice it, then is it really an issue? And if you notice, you're one click/keypress away from making it disappear.

Re: Ask HN: What's the Point Anymore?

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Post by fnoef »

skybrian wrote: post #28

To put this in perspective: AI stuff is about talking to ghosts. Yes, there are a lot of things ghosts can do, but they lack something due to being immaterial. Robots are still pretty limited. There are lot of maintenance chores that ClawdBot can't do. It's not going to cook for you, rake the leaves, shovel the snow off your sidewalk, or pressure-wash your steps. You can still find some satisfaction in doing these th…

That’s my point. Technology is a dead end now. The only thing left to do is go back to doing mundane physical work in order to feed yourself.

Re: Ask HN: What's the Point Anymore?

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Post by fnoef »

01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #22

> How should people make money? No idea, as in the "prosperous future", everything is replaced by AI. If we taxed land ownership a la Georgism and then taxed negative externalities like pollution, we could give everyone UBI and probably kick back and take it easy for a bit. Of course this would require a global democratic mandate bigger than the world's ever seen, so I'm not waiting up on it.

I predict global slavery to emerge sooner than UBI will become a reality. Call me a pessimist if you wish

Re: Ask HN: What's the Point Anymore?

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Post by fnoef »

ilya-pi wrote: post #34
GaryBluto wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say the fact that it mentions a relatively obscure project specifically.

Yes, specifically this.

Edited out the name, for you.

Cant even be authentic in the internet anymore without being flagged as advertisement or an AI bot, jeez

Re: Ask HN: What's the Point Anymore?

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Post by cpt_sobel »

wellpast wrote: post #25
RiverCrochet wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flooded markets get bypassed. I see a future where real creatives simply don't post stuff online, and anything online is not trusted. What AI is going to kill is the Internet, not human creativity.

Had the same thought but feels too overly optimistic. I don’t think people “internet” for trust, but for dopamine.

I feel like I've been meeting people of different ages (strong bias for millenials) that just don't enjoy the internet anymore. And yes, most are addicted to this dopamine drip, yet it makes me optimistic that something _is_ changing.

Re: Ask HN: What's the Point Anymore?

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Post by ilya-pi »

fnoef wrote: post #36
ilya-pi wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, specifically this.

Edited out the name, for you. Cant even be authentic in the internet anymore without being flagged as advertisement or an AI bot, jeez

With all my respect, I wasn't trying to piss on your post, only to communicate how it reads. On the subject — this wave of tech is intensely overwhelming, I feel you too.

And often it is hard to see exact value that you can create.

Having said this, it would probably lead to even more interesting music, art and all the things you mentioned, because the bar was raised.

Re: Ask HN: What's the Point Anymore?

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Post by mysterydip »

embedding-shape wrote: post #32
tbyehl wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> just turn it off if you don't like it. How? Or do you mean, like, stop using the Internet entirely?

Notice that it's bad/slop/shit, turn it off, do something else. If you don't notice it, then is it really an issue? And if you notice, you're one click/keypress away from making it disappear.

I agree, with the caveat that the chance of a link in a search result being AI generated is increasing, as well as the sophistication of the generated text, which means a growing percentage of my time is wasted on AI generated content before I realize it.
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