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Interview With Reddit Troll, 'Violentacrez' (video)

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Re: Interview With Reddit Troll, 'Violentacrez' (video)

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Post by naner »

aes256 wrote: post #24
naner wrote: post #7

It seems like he is only remorseful because he got caught. And as Cooper pointed out: he only mentions the negative impact on himself and his family (what about the girls whose photos he posted?) and tries to shift most of the responsibility to Reddit.

It's a weird fall from grace for violentacrez. Redditors, in general, loved what he did. His subreddits were hugely popular; /r/jailbait was once voted subreddit of the year by the community, and he himself was once moderator of the year. Now he has been unmasked he is facing the wrath of the wider population, which doesn't 'get' Internet humor, the tongue-in-cheek nature of trolling, will never admit to finding teen…

The demographic of Reddit that enjoyed what he did (or at least thought is was funny or exercising "free speech") has been consistenly getting smaller and less influential as Reddit has gained more mainstream popularity.

Reddit's employees never really loved the guy (AFAICT) but they tolerated him because he moderated and kept illegal content out of his subreddits and they sure as hell didn't want to touch any of that stuff.

Violentacrez turned on Reddit as soon as he was outed, looking for any scapegoat to take some of the pressure off of himself. All things considered, I'm not suprised that Reddit is not backing him up.

Re: Interview With Reddit Troll, 'Violentacrez' (video)

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Post by aes256 »

naner wrote: post #31
aes256 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a weird fall from grace for violentacrez. Redditors, in general, loved what he did. His subreddits were hugely popular; /r/jailbait was once voted subreddit of the year by the community, and he himself was once moderator of the year. Now he has been unmasked he is facing the wrath of the wider population, which doesn't 'get' Internet humor, the tongue-in-cheek nature of trolling, will never admit to finding teen…

The demographic of Reddit that enjoyed what he did (or at least thought is was funny or exercising "free speech") has been consistenly getting smaller and less influential as Reddit has gained more mainstream popularity. Reddit's employees never really loved the guy (AFAICT) but they tolerated him because he moderated and kept illegal content out of his subreddits and they sure as hell didn't want to touch any of tha…

I don't think violentacrez is using Reddit as a scapegoat. I think he's genuinely and understandably surprised by the outrage. It's that transition from being hailed as an Internet hero to being derided as a vile monster that has just left him bewildered.

From what I understand he was instrumental in driving traffic to the site in the early days, and contributed a great deal to not only moderating his own subreddits (including many of the most popular subreddits) but training other moderators.

An awful lot of people held violentacrez in high regard despite his controversial antics, but now this has all blown up in the media, violentacrez himself is being used as a scapegoat.

Re: Interview With Reddit Troll, 'Violentacrez' (video)

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Post by bmm6o »

Legion wrote: post #10
freeslave wrote: post #2

this whole thing has really turned me off reddit. i blocked it in my /etc/hosts and my productivity has gone way up. also, makes me appreciate the efforts of HN to keep things civil and intelligent - even if it means a lot of my posts and comments go nowhere.

> this whole thing has really turned me off reddit. To me, that's like saying, "that dirty alt.binaries.whatever group really turned me off USENET." The reddit I visit doesn't have any violentacrez. Nor does the reddit my wife visits. The thing reddit gets right is the ability to customize and narrowly define what content you get fed. Mine looks like a more scattered HN. My wife's looks like a text-based Pinterest.

That is the difference between a protocol and a site/platform. As an operator, you could choose not to carry news groups that you find objectionable. Or you can choose not to visit websites you don't want to support. Reddit is too monolithic for that. It's true that you can not see it our pretend it's not there, but one of the few ways to promote change is to not visit the site at all.

Re: Interview With Reddit Troll, 'Violentacrez' (video)

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Post by nicholas_tuzzio »

meritt wrote: post #19
nicholas_tuzzio wrote: post #14

I really wish people would stop posting about this most recent bout of reddit drama on HN. Are people not noticing that every article so far has been deleted?

Huh. I didn't view this as a Reddit vs. HN elitism post. I viewed it as a solid example of the inherent problems with balancing anonymity, legality of content and freedom of speech on a user-generated website.

I'm a really big fan of reddit in some ways and I have been following this drama very closely. I just don't think it's appropriate for HN.

Re: Interview With Reddit Troll, 'Violentacrez' (video)

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Post by ericclemmons »

w1ntermute wrote: post #13
sergiotapia wrote: post #4

On the one hand I feel bad for his wife, she's suffering over something she had nothing to do with. Her husband lost his job and now she has no health care insurance. On the other hand, this guy was posting a TON of offensive, downright disgusting content. He was stupid enough to share his personal information with someone online, that's his fault. Doing stupid shit online + sharing who you are in real life (even to…

> now she has no health care insurance. More than anything else, this is yet another condemnation of the American health care system.

Joining healthcare to a single place of employment was a mistake from the very beginning. Luckily, health care is comparable when purchased separately, depending on obvious factors.
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