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Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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It goes far beyond hungry people stealing bread. Look at one of those academic fraud discussions had here on HN over the past week and you'll find people saying that using AI to hallucinate an academic paper isn't a good thing but instead of judging the people who do this we should blame society itself while being understanding of the frauds. The mentality spoken above is pervasive and insidious.

I saw that, it was bizarre enough to be seared into my memory. I think you're underestimating just how weird that particular conversation was. The pervasive problems you see in places like SF or much of the UK are just far more boring.

I think those commenters were just on cruise control, applying a pattern of thought with which they are well accustomed, to a scenario which is even more clear cut than usual crime. If it were instead teenagers stealing cars to joyride, we'd get the same cohort pleading for leniency because it was social circumstance that made them do it. It's not just hungry people stealing bread, there's an automatic reflex to defend any criminal as being a victim of society and this only becomes as bizarre as you experienced when the criminals involved are in particularly privileged and trusted positions.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Initially they didn’t have it, people complained, now they do, and people still complain.

> Initially they didn’t have it

They did have anti-stalking from the start btw. People still complained that it wasn’t good enough so they reduced some of the timings.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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I need to applaud the efficiency and moxie of the Zurich / Swiss police service. In America, the UK, Canada, etc they'd tell you to fill out a report that nobody would ever read, and also advise you it's probably unsafe to go pick it up yourself.

In certain places in America. My county sheriff's office would be more than happy to have something to do that isn't picking up somebody's stray dog. I'm sure this is true for the UK and Canada too.

I called the non-emergency line for the local police department when someone went home with my wallet after I left it on a plane, tracked with an AirTag. 2 hours later an officer said they didn't have probable cause but could knock on the door and ask anyway. I think he basically offered for there to be no trouble if they gave it back, thief claimed they were "going to return it to lost and found", and sure enough I was able to go show my passport at the station and collect it the next day.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Airtag is the reason of why I stil have my favourite hand luggage. I had just sat down on the train from Zurich to Basel. Suddenly, someone sat down in front of me. He looked suspicious, but I didn't pay much attention. Just before the train departed, he picked up what I thought were his belongings and left. Twenty minutes later, already on the way to Basel, I looked toward where I had left my suitcase. It was gone.…

haha do that in the States and the police will tell you to go F yourself.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Thankfully you were in Switzerland rather than the states, I just never see American police caring about that.

Switzerland is the Singapore of Europe (I mean this in a good way!) - the state just functions in a way that other European countries can only dream of

> the state just functions in a way that other European countries can only dream of affording being able to

I have fixed that for you.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Depends on the jurisdiction. One time I was driving down a twoo-lane road with a police car a few hundred feet behind me. An oncoming pickup truck veered several feet over the center line and almost hit me. I flagged the police down to tell them and they were nonplussed even though they literally saw it happen. Drunk driving, a greater threat than property theft, was of little consequence to them. On the other side o…

America is weirdly nonplussed by destruction and deaths caused by a car.

checkmate, Airtag on my bicycle.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

Can it alert of my item being moved? Because it seems quite useless for the bicycle example in their screenshot.

My Samsung SmartTag gives me a notification if the bike changes position and I'm not nearby. Actually giving me a chance to track it down.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Probably one of the best products apple has made of late: relatively affordable, good ux, user replaceable batteries. Glad to see this iteration hasn't made it worse.

Stupid form factor, though. Need to buy extra accessories to be able to actually mount it to anything, but I guess that's the Apple way. Why not have a hole to put a rope or anything through?

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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In Japan, they also had to segregate subways by sex to deter groping. And the men just got on the woman cars anyways. High-functioning society lol.

In Japan, there's so little crime that they make an effort to crack down on things like creepshots. The desire to tackle stuff like that is more than most countries do, where it's swept under the rug and ignored. In America, you can proudly say you grope and molest women and it's considered presidential behavior.

Love to live there but chances they'll let me are roughly 0%. It's convenient (for them) that racial discrimination isn't a crime in Japan.
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