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Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

How would airtags work as theft prevention? Airtags only enter the equation once something has already been stolen.

I think "theft recovery" is probably meant.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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What airtags need is a theft mode, where anyone carrying the airtag is not alerted, but the location can be retrieved by an approved local authority after being voluntarily surrendered by the owner.

Wouldn't even be hard for Apple to implement, they already do this for airlines.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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post #318

Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

How would airtags work as theft prevention? Airtags only enter the equation once something has already been stolen.

Setting expectations and thinning the herd. If even half of items had a well hidden air tag, and the cops successfully followed up even half of tagged thefts:

There would a. be less dumb criminals around to repeat offend and b. The smarter would-be criminals will do the calculus and and not steal items which could have tags.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Airtag is the reason of why I stil have my favourite hand luggage. I had just sat down on the train from Zurich to Basel. Suddenly, someone sat down in front of me. He looked suspicious, but I didn't pay much attention. Just before the train departed, he picked up what I thought were his belongings and left. Twenty minutes later, already on the way to Basel, I looked toward where I had left my suitcase. It was gone.…

Didn't they start chirping and alert the thief?

The anti-stalking measures with AirTags, while we all recognize why they're in place, also greatly reduce their value as anti-theft devices. I've gouged the speakers out of a few and hidden them in my vehicles, but if Apple makes that impossible to do with the new generation... no sale.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not your fault for leaving your property in your car. Wild to say that.

I imagine they see it the way I do: the SF Bay Area has thieves like this because it's part of local native culture. You get the good with the bad. Sort of like going to the elephant graveyard and being eaten by hyena pack. Sure, it's not your fault for walking around graveyard and getting eaten by hyena. But this is where hyena is. I have lost (and sometimes recovered) many items to these hyena. Ultimately, they are…

> the SF Bay Area has thieves like this because it's part of local native culture

You mean like Coast Miwok or Pomo?

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

#427

What airtags need is a theft mode, where anyone carrying the airtag is not alerted, but the location can be retrieved by an approved local authority after being voluntarily surrendered by the owner.

The challenge is how you prevent such features being abused by like stalkers

It would be nice if this could tie in to actively altering enforcement when it's turned on, maybe even require sharing with authorities for it to be enabled: the stalker would have to collaborate with police in order to stalk the victim.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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What airtags need is a theft mode, where anyone carrying the airtag is not alerted, but the location can be retrieved by an approved local authority after being voluntarily surrendered by the owner.

The challenge is how you prevent such features being abused by like stalkers

Whitelisting law enforcement so when the owner of the air tag declares it stolen nobody other than a whitelisted law enforcement org could view its location and when they did that creates an audit log?

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Only if they're regular citizens. Somehow masked federal thugs don't get shot; somehow the 2nd Amendment gun-humpers who so opposed federal tyranny have disappeared.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

not "fault" in the sense of legal or ethical blame, but "fault" in the sense of stupid vs. smart thing to do

But it’s not a stupid thing to do either - if anything, normalizing crime sounds not optimal.

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