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Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by pnw »

storus wrote: post #308

So they made it impossible to remove speaker, destroying its usability as a theft tracking device. One could add an airtag with a removed speaker on a bike/scooter/car and then localize it in case of theft. With the new airtag any thief will be quickly notified they are tracked.

Apple has removed all mention of theft tracking from their site once they added the stalking protection. Airtag is for people who lose things, not finding stolen things. You have less than an hour before an Airtag alerts a thief they are being tracked.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by lysace »

pnw wrote: post #318

Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

What happens after that? It goes dark? Or it just alerts the thief (stalker victim)?

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by istjohn »

tavavex wrote: post #278
wmeredith wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the point is to make the smallest unit of functionality possible and then people can integrate that into their use case using attachments, casings, etc. in a way they see fit. It's a good approach for this product in my opinion.

I think this argument would work better if the AirTag in its minimal form wasn't so teardrop-shaped. It feels almost like it was designed to be difficult to integrate into other environments because it lacks any edges or openings. It ensures that anything that could hold it must be at least as big as the AirTag itself. It really confuses me why they couldn't even allow for a single small hole in its edge - it would s…

An Apple product in which design takes precedence over usability. Imagine that.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by mikestew »

brikym wrote: post #316

They don't seem to get that if it costs less people will buy more of them. I'm not doing to spend $29 to track a $100 item.

I'm sure Apple appreciates the advice, especially considering how few people buy their pricey phones and accessories.

C'mon, this is the same company that sells a $230 sock for your phone. And they sold out of the first batch. Apple knows their market, and some people...don't.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by pnw »

lysace wrote: post #322
pnw wrote: post #318

Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

What happens after that? It goes dark? Or it just alerts the thief (stalker victim)?

It sends alerts to the thief's iPhone or Android (if you have Apple's Tracker Detect Android app) that they are being tracked within 30 to 60 minutes. It also enables the beeping so the thief can find and remove the Airtag.

If the Airtag can't reach the thief's phone, it starts chirping by itself within an 8-24 hour window.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by epistasis »

pnw wrote: post #318

Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

Interesting, I hadn't considered theft recovery to be a use case for Airtags before. I've only used them for "where the hell did that X go".

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by [deleted] »

lysace wrote: post #322
pnw wrote: post #318

Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

What happens after that? It goes dark? Or it just alerts the thief (stalker victim)?

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Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by hk1337 »

pnw wrote: post #318

Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

Initially they didn’t have it, people complained, now they do, and people still complain.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by [deleted] »

renewiltord wrote: post #304
ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not your fault for leaving your property in your car. Wild to say that.

I imagine they see it the way I do: the SF Bay Area has thieves like this because it's part of local native culture. You get the good with the bad. Sort of like going to the elephant graveyard and being eaten by hyena pack. Sure, it's not your fault for walking around graveyard and getting eaten by hyena. But this is where hyena is. I have lost (and sometimes recovered) many items to these hyena. Ultimately, they are…

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Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by [deleted] »

pnw wrote: post #325
lysace wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happens after that? It goes dark? Or it just alerts the thief (stalker victim)?

It sends alerts to the thief's iPhone or Android (if you have Apple's Tracker Detect Android app) that they are being tracked within 30 to 60 minutes. It also enables the beeping so the thief can find and remove the Airtag. If the Airtag can't reach the thief's phone, it starts chirping by itself within an 8-24 hour window.

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