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The Adolescence of Technology

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Re: The Adolescence of Technology

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post #6

The framing of AI risk as a "rite of passage" resonates with me. The "autonomy risks" section is what I think about most. We've seen our agents do unexpected things when given too much latitude. Not dangerous, just wrong in ways we didn't anticipate. The gap between "works in testing" and "works in production" is bigger than most people realize. I'm less worried about the "power seizure" scenario than the economic di…

What makes you think that they will just keep improving? It's not obvious at all, we might soon hit a ceiling, if we haven not already - time will tell. There are lots of technologies that have been 99% done for decades; it might be the same here.

From the essay - not presented in agreement (I'm still undecided), but Dario's opinion is probably the most relevant here:

> My co-founders at Anthropic and I were among the first to document and track the “scaling laws” of AI systems—the observation that as we add more compute and training tasks, AI systems get predictably better at essentially every cognitive skill we are able to measure. Every few months, public sentiment either becomes convinced that AI is “hitting a wall” or becomes excited about some new breakthrough that will “fundamentally change the game,” but the truth is that behind the volatility and public speculation, there has been a smooth, unyielding increase in AI’s cognitive capabilities.

> We are now at the point where AI models are beginning to make progress in solving unsolved mathematical problems, and are good enough at coding that some of the strongest engineers I’ve ever met are now handing over almost all their coding to AI. Three years ago, AI struggled with elementary school arithmetic problems and was barely capable of writing a single line of code. Similar rates of improvement are occurring across biological science, finance, physics, and a variety of agentic tasks. If the exponential continues—which is not certain, but now has a decade-long track record supporting it—then it cannot possibly be more than a few years before AI is better than humans at essentially everything.

> In fact, that picture probably underestimates the likely rate of progress. Because AI is now writing much of the code at Anthropic, it is already substantially accelerating the rate of our progress in building the next generation of AI systems. This feedback loop is gathering steam month by month, and may be only 1–2 years away from a point where the current generation of AI autonomously builds the next. This loop has already started, and will accelerate rapidly in the coming months and years. Watching the last 5 years of progress from within Anthropic, and looking at how even the next few months of models are shaping up, I can feel the pace of progress, and the clock ticking down.

Re: The Adolescence of Technology

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One of my formative impressions of AI came from the depiction of the Colligatarch from Alan Dean Foster's The I Inside.

The AI in the book is almost feels like it is the main message masquerading as a subplot.

Asimov knew the risks, and I had assumed until fairly recently that the lessons and explorations that he had imparted into the Robot books had provided a level of cultural knowledge of what we were about to face. Perhaps the movie of I Robot was a warning of how much the signal had decayed.

I worry that we are sociologically unprepared, and sometimes it seems wilfully so.

People discussed this potential in great detail decades ago, Indeed the Sagan reference at the start of this post points to one of the significant contributors to the conversation, but it seems by the time it started happening, everyone had forgotten.

People are talking in terms of who to blame, what will be taken from me, and inevitability.

Any talk of a future we might want dismissed as idealistic or hype. Any depiction of a utopian future is met with derision far too often. Even worse the depiction can be warped to an evil caricature of "What they really meant".

How do we know what course to take if we can't talk about where we want to end up?

Re: The Adolescence of Technology

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I don't think we have much to worry about in terms of economic disruption. At this point it seems pretty clear that LLMs are having a major impact on how software is built, but for almost every other industry the practical effects are mostly incremental.

Even in the software world, the effect of being able to build software a lot faster isn't really leading to a fundamentally different software landscape. Yes, you can now pump out a month's worth of CRUD in a couple days, but ultimately it's just the same CRUD, and there's no reason to expect that this will change because of LLMs.

Of course, creative people with innovative ideas will be able to achieve more, a talented engineer will be able to embark on a project that they didn't have the time to build before, and that will likely lead to some kind of software surplus that the economy feels on the margins, but in practical terms the economy will continue to chug along at a sustained pace that's mostly inline with e.g. economic projections from 10 years ago.

Re: The Adolescence of Technology

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post #6

The framing of AI risk as a "rite of passage" resonates with me. The "autonomy risks" section is what I think about most. We've seen our agents do unexpected things when given too much latitude. Not dangerous, just wrong in ways we didn't anticipate. The gap between "works in testing" and "works in production" is bigger than most people realize. I'm less worried about the "power seizure" scenario than the economic di…

What makes you think that they will just keep improving? It's not obvious at all, we might soon hit a ceiling, if we haven not already - time will tell. There are lots of technologies that have been 99% done for decades; it might be the same here.

Which technologies have been 99% "done" for "decades?"

Bicycles? carbon fiber frames, electronic shifting, tubeless tires, disc brakes, aerodynamic research

Screwdrivers? impact drivers, torque-limiting mechanisms, ergonomic handles

Glass? gorilla glass, smart glass, low-e coatings

Tires? run-flats, self-sealing, noise reduction

Hell even social technologies improve!

How is a technology "done?"

Re: The Adolescence of Technology

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post #4

When I see Dario say all this I wonder what he's seeing that seems so differentiated from my POV I wonder how much of Anthropic's success is based on a horde of prompt to code examples that they post-train on. We shouldn't assume Opus' web dev skills are the same as general intelligence Here's something Sonnet 4 did (Jul 2025) that I don't think a human intern would do when I made a wikisource tool (transcript follow…

> Here's something Sonnet 4 did last year

Hate to be that gal but a lot has changed in the past year

Re: The Adolescence of Technology

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post #15
post #4

When I see Dario say all this I wonder what he's seeing that seems so differentiated from my POV I wonder how much of Anthropic's success is based on a horde of prompt to code examples that they post-train on. We shouldn't assume Opus' web dev skills are the same as general intelligence Here's something Sonnet 4 did (Jul 2025) that I don't think a human intern would do when I made a wikisource tool (transcript follow…

> Here's something Sonnet 4 did last year Hate to be that gal but a lot has changed in the past year

Not with respect to this particular type of failure.

Re: The Adolescence of Technology

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post #2

Initial thought about 1/5th of the way through: Wow, that's a lot of em-dashes! i wonder how much of this he actually wrote? Edit: Okay, section 3 has some interesting bits in it. It reminds me of all those gun start-ups in Texas that use gyros and image recognition to turn a C- shooter into an A- shooter. They all typically get bought up quite fast by the government and the tech shushed away. But the ideas are just…

Dario and Anthropic's strategy has been to exaggerate the harmful capabilities of LLMs and systems driven by LLMs, positioning Anthropic themselves as the "safest" option. Take from this what you will.

As an ordinary human with no investment in the game, I would not expect LLMs to magically work around the well-known physical phenomena that make submarines hard to track. I think there could be some ability to augment cybersecurity skill just through improved pattern-matching and search, hence real teams using it at Google and the like, but I don't think this translates well to attacks on real-world targets such as satellites or launch facilities. Maybe if someone hooked up Claude to a Ralph Wiggum loop and dumped cash into a prompt to try and "fire ze missiles", and it actually worked or got farther than the existing state-sponsored black-hat groups at doing the same thing to existing infrastructure, then I could be convinced otherwise.

Re: The Adolescence of Technology

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I don't think we have much to worry about in terms of economic disruption. At this point it seems pretty clear that LLMs are having a major impact on how software is built, but for almost every other industry the practical effects are mostly incremental. Even in the software world, the effect of being able to build software a lot faster isn't really leading to a fundamentally different software landscape. Yes, you ca…

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Re: The Adolescence of Technology

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you think that they will just keep improving? It's not obvious at all, we might soon hit a ceiling, if we haven not already - time will tell. There are lots of technologies that have been 99% done for decades; it might be the same here.

Which technologies have been 99% "done" for "decades?" Bicycles? carbon fiber frames, electronic shifting, tubeless tires, disc brakes, aerodynamic research Screwdrivers? impact drivers, torque-limiting mechanisms, ergonomic handles Glass? gorilla glass, smart glass, low-e coatings Tires? run-flats, self-sealing, noise reduction Hell even social technologies improve! How is a technology "done?"

It's not! But each one of your examples is in a phase of chasing diminishing returns from ever-expanding levels of capital investment.
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