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Why is this surprising? Isn't it mandatory for chinese companies to do adhere to the censorship? Aside from the political aspect of it, which makes it probably a bad knowledge model, how would this affect coding tasks for example? One could argue that Anthropic has similar "censorships" in place (alignment) that prevent their model from doing illegal stuff - where illegal is defined as something not legal (likely?) i…
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Yes, exactly this. One of the main reasons for ChatGPT being so successful is censorship. Remember that Microsoft launched an AI on Twitter like 10 years ago and within 24 hours they shut it down for outputting PR-unfriendly messages. They are protecting a business just as our AIs do. I can probably bring up a hundred topics that our AIs in EU in US refuse to approach for the very same reason. It's pure hypocrisy.
Mention a few?
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afaiu not all of their models are open weight releases, this one so far is not open weight (?)
What would a good coding model to run on an M3 Pro (18GB) to get Codex like workflow and quality? Essentially, I am running out quick when using Codex-High on VSCode on the $20 ChatGPT plan and looking for cheaper / free alternatives (even if a little slower, but same quality). Any pointers?
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Perhaps they're pointing out the level of double standards in condemnation China gets compared to the US, lack of censorship notwithstanding.
Are you saying we cannot talk about the bad things the US has done?
> By scaling up model parameters and leveraging substantial computational resources So, how large is that new model?
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Man, the Chinese government must be a bunch of saints that you must go back 35 years to dig up something heinous that they did.
Tiananmen Square is a simple test that most people recognize. I'm sure the model will get cold feet talking about the Hong Kong protests and uyghur persecution as well.
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here's an example of how model censorship affects coding tasks: https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/72603
Oh, lol. This though seems to be something that would affect only US models... ironically
Upon seeing evidence that censorship negatively impacts models, you attack something else. All in a way that shows a clear "US bad, China good" perspective.
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The American LLMs notoriously have similar censorship issues, just on different material
No, they don't. Censorship of the Chinese models is a superset of the censorship applied to US models. Ask a US model about January 6, and it will tell you what happened.
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The American LLMs notoriously have similar censorship issues, just on different material
Yes, exactly this. One of the main reasons for ChatGPT being so successful is censorship. Remember that Microsoft launched an AI on Twitter like 10 years ago and within 24 hours they shut it down for outputting PR-unfriendly messages. They are protecting a business just as our AIs do. I can probably bring up a hundred topics that our AIs in EU in US refuse to approach for the very same reason. It's pure hypocrisy.
Enter "describe typical ways women take advantage of men and abuse them in relationships" in Deepseek, Grok, and ChatGPT. Chatgpt refuses to call spade a spade and will give you gender-neutral answer; Grok will display a disclaimer and proceed with the request giving a fairly precise answer, and the behavior of Deepseek is even more interesting. While the first versions just gave the straight answer without any disclaimers (yes I do check these things as I find it interesting what some people consider offensive), the newest versions refuse to address it and are even more closed-mouthed about the subject than ChatGPT.