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Re: Qwen3-Max-Thinking

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Post by zamalek »

margorczynski wrote: post #82
jgoodhcg wrote: post #21

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Z.ai has glm-4.7. Its almost as good for about $8/mo.

Not sure if it's me but at least for my use cases (software devl, small-medium projects) Claude Opus + Claude Code beats by quite a margin OpenCode + GLM 4.7. At least for me Claude "gets it" eventually while GLM will get stuck in a loop not understanding what the problem is or what I expect.

Right, GLM is close But not close enough. If I have to spend $200 for Opus fallback i may as well not use it always. Still an unbelievable option if $200 is a luxury, the price-per-quality is absurd.

Re: Qwen3-Max-Thinking

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Post by lern_too_spel »

amenhotep wrote: post #115
IncreasePosts wrote: post #106

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What material? My lai massacre? Secret bombing campaigns in Cambodia? Kent state? MKULTRA? Tuskegee experiment? Trail of tears? Japanese internment?

I think what these people mean is that it's difficult to get them to be racist, sexist, antisemitic, transphobic, to deny climate change, etc. Still not even the same thing because Western models will happily talk about these things.

> to deny climate change

This is a statement of facts, just like the Tiananmen Square example is a statement of fact. What is interesting in the Alibaba Cloud case is that the model output is filtered to remove certain facts. The people claiming some "both sides" equivalence, on the other hand, are trying to get a model to deny certain facts.

Re: Qwen3-Max-Thinking

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Post by zibini »

calpaterson wrote: post #86
diblasio wrote: post #48

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The American LLMs notoriously have similar censorship issues, just on different material

I've yet to encounter any censorship with Grok. Despite all the negative news about what people are telling it to do, I've found it very useful in discussing controversial topics.

I'll use ChatGPT for other discussions but for highly-charged political topics, for example, Grok is the best for getting all sides of the argument no matter how offensive they might be.

Re: Qwen3-Max-Thinking

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Post by itsyonas »

argsnd wrote: post #136
itsyonas wrote: post #76

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This suggests that the Chinese government recognises that its legitimacy is conditional and potentially unstable. Consequently, the state treats uncontrolled public discourse as a direct threat. By contrast, countries such as the United States can tolerate the public exposure of war crimes, illegal actions or state violence, since such revelations rarely result in any significant consequences. While public outrage ma…

What a meaningless statement. If information can influence elections it can change who is in power. This isn’t possible in China.

I disagree. Elections do not offer systemic change. They offer a rotation of administrators. While rhetoric varies, the institutions, strategic priorities, and coercive capacities persist, and every viable candidate ends up defending them.
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