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The American LLMs notoriously have similar censorship issues, just on different material
They've been quietly undoing a lot this IMO - gemini on the api will pretty much do anything other than CP.
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I think the great thing about China's censorship bureau is that somewhere they actually track all the falsehoods and omissions, just like the USSR did. Because they need to keep track of what "the truth" is so they can censor it effectively. At some point when it becomes useful the "non-facts" will be rehabilitated into "facts." Then they may be demoted back into "non-facts."
And obviously, this training data is marked "sensitive" by someone - who knows enough to mark it as "sensitive."
Has China come up with some kind of CSAM-like matching mechanism for un-persons and un-facts? And how do they restore those un-things to things?
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Man, the Chinese government must be a bunch of saints that you must go back 35 years to dig up something heinous that they did.
The current heinous thing they do is censorship. Your comment would be relevant if the OP had to find an example of censorship from 35 years ago, but all he had to do today was to ask the model a question.
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The American LLMs notoriously have similar censorship issues, just on different material
What's an example of political censorship on US LLMs?
Try any generation with a fascism symbol: it will fail.
Then try the exact same query with a communist symbol: it will do it without questioning.
I tried this just last week in ChatGPT image generation. You can try it yourself.
Now, I'm ok with allowing or disallowing both. But let's be coherent here.
P.S.: The downvotes just amuse me, TBH. I'm certain the people claiming the existence of censorship in the USA, were never expecting to have someone calling out the "good kind of censorship" and hypocrisy of it not being even-handed about the extremes of the ideological discourse.
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Ah so you love censorship when you agree with it?
endlessly amusing to see people attempt paradox of tolerance gotchas decade after decade after decade. did you mean to post this on slashdot
Endlessly amusing to see people advocate that the modern web communities are better than the old. Take me back to 2009 internet please I beg.
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This one seems to be related to an individual who was incorrectly smeared by chatgpt. (Edited.) > The AI chatbot fabricated a sexual harassment scandal involving a law professor--and cited a fake Washington Post article as evidence. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/04/05/chatgpt... That is way different. Let's review: a) The Chinese Communist Party builds an LLM that refuses to talk about their previous…
As I said earlier - both subjects present legal jeopardy in the respective jurisdictions, and both result in unexplained errors to the users.
But you can use pretty much any other model or search engine to learn about Turley.
China's orders come from the government. Turley is a guy that OpenAI found it's models incorrectly smearing, so they cut him out.
I don't think the comparison between a single company debugging it's model and a national government dictating speech are genuine comparisons..