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Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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Visio from https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/

It's funny that it's such a blatant knock-off of Google Workspace - the repos even have the same names: https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet I wonder if the emoji will grow into its own set: https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet/blob/main/src/fronten...

It doesn't matter. Office suites are a commodity. Google suite is knockoff of MS Office at certain point in time. That's just the nature of digital - information want's to be free.

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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Instead of these politics driven projects that usually fail at least partially what tends to succeed is if an angry nerd starts a project to replace something with free alternative, such as Linux, VLC, ffmpeg, ...

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Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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Why wait? If you can get a work visa you might as well, independent of this push. English proficiency in France isn't amazing though (speaking as a Dutchman that visits France most summers), so learning French would be a big help.

Do you have a suggestion of where to begin looking? Doesn't have to be France either.

I'm not sure, it depends on what kind of work you're looking for. For the Netherlands, I'd start here.

https://www.tech-careers.nl/job-seeker-visa-for-tech-roles-i...

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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OpenOffice? Do you mean LibreOffice? OpenOffice has been effectively dead for many years (though, maddeningly, Apache continues to publish it and squat the trademark); LibreOffice is the mainline where development continues.

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Yes, the name confusion is bad, I'm not really sure what this has to do with the topic though.

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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Products don't necessarily win on merit. Microsoft Teams "won" entirely because it was given away free with Office. Even though it is acceptable these days, it was horrible when it started. There is no way it could have won without unlimited backing from a bigger force. You have to see EU trying these things in the same light.

Sure, Betamax was technically superior to VHS. But in the end the market still decides… nobody said “better” means technically superior… just something people want to use an other options available to them. “Good enough” with attractive value to the individual/business typically wins.

Not to get too much into a debate about Beta vs VHS, but VHS did have longer run times and its cheapness was the main reason it won, It just fit better for the consumer overall desires at the time

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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I wish them luck, but while saying folks will drop the dominant apps seems all the rage at the moment people have been saying this for decades with almost no real progress at scale. The only way to accomplish this at scale is to build something that is legit better and let the market decide. Anything else is just principled wishful thinking.

This blind faith in “the market” is charming, but the market is just the outcome of enforceable ground rules (national, international) followed then by price/value.

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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It's funny that it's such a blatant knock-off of Google Workspace - the repos even have the same names: https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet I wonder if the emoji will grow into its own set: https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet/blob/main/src/fronten...

It doesn't matter. Office suites are a commodity. Google suite is knockoff of MS Office at certain point in time. That's just the nature of digital - information want's to be free.

I feel like we would see a lot more movement if we’ve reached the commodity point…

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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I wish them luck, but while saying folks will drop the dominant apps seems all the rage at the moment people have been saying this for decades with almost no real progress at scale. The only way to accomplish this at scale is to build something that is legit better and let the market decide. Anything else is just principled wishful thinking.

What I wonder is if there will be the pay for enticing developers to build it.

I think many of use will love to do this kind of stuff, but is mostly US companies that pay for it.

For example, I like to make RDBMs and ERPs kind of software, but here in LATAM is near impossible to get funding for it, how is in Europe?

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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post #70

I wish them luck, but while saying folks will drop the dominant apps seems all the rage at the moment people have been saying this for decades with almost no real progress at scale. The only way to accomplish this at scale is to build something that is legit better and let the market decide. Anything else is just principled wishful thinking.

> The only way to accomplish this at scale is to build something that is legit better and let the market decide. Anything else is just principled wishful thinking.

No they need to tariff/ban things that are non-EU

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