Can access X because it's X and locally blocked, "ironic" to use Twitter to post about sovereignty. It's ongoing for a will with La suite numérique ( https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/ ). - Tchap is a message app for officials, - Visio, based on LiveKit - FranceTransfert, I don't know what is it. - Fichiers => Drive - Messagerie => Email - Docs => A better Google Docs - Grist => Excel version of Google docs. It aimed…
Ironic to use Github to post about sovereignty )
France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.
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ScaleWay and OVH are already filling this gap.
Good luck with OVH. Most EU companies, including this one, offer subpar services compared to their American counterparts.
The problem is when US decides to ban sales of compute hardware to EU (like they do to China). Then it will be clear who's really in power.
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#93My hope is that all this push towards tech independence (not just from EU) will make the most "basic" tools open-source and they wouldn't suck as much as they do now. What I mean by this is e.g. you can already use Linux on a desktop and it's generally okay (or even good sometimes), however things like LibreOffice are absolutely unusable in terms of performance, functionality and user friendliness compared to e.g. Ke…
As much as I cheer for OpenOffice, it sucks. And it has been decades now. I'm not even an advanced Word / Google Doc user. Are we gonna wait for 100 more years for it to be good?
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#94I wish them luck, but while saying folks will drop the dominant apps seems all the rage at the moment people have been saying this for decades with almost no real progress at scale. The only way to accomplish this at scale is to build something that is legit better and let the market decide. Anything else is just principled wishful thinking.
Microsoft Teams "won" entirely because it was given away free with Office. Even though it is acceptable these days, it was horrible when it started. There is no way it could have won without unlimited backing from a bigger force.
You have to see EU trying these things in the same light.
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Taxes are not really an issue because of the services you get out of it: free healthcare, free education for your kids, etc. But yes, salary before taxes is much lower than in the US. If your goal is to make as much money as possible, either stay in US or move to a different European country (Northern Europe or Switzerland).
As a software engineer in the US you're not really worrying about access to health care, and have access to public schools as well.
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As much as I cheer for OpenOffice, it sucks. And it has been decades now. I'm not even an advanced Word / Google Doc user. Are we gonna wait for 100 more years for it to be good?
OpenOffice? Do you mean LibreOffice? OpenOffice has been effectively dead for many years (though, maddeningly, Apache continues to publish it and squat the trademark); LibreOffice is the mainline where development continues.
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#99Seriously, why are people still using twitter? It's owned by a Nazi supporter, is full of white nationalist racist posters, and seems a strange place to announce you are moving off of American tech.
Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.
#100I wish them luck, but while saying folks will drop the dominant apps seems all the rage at the moment people have been saying this for decades with almost no real progress at scale. The only way to accomplish this at scale is to build something that is legit better and let the market decide. Anything else is just principled wishful thinking.
Products don't necessarily win on merit. Microsoft Teams "won" entirely because it was given away free with Office. Even though it is acceptable these days, it was horrible when it started. There is no way it could have won without unlimited backing from a bigger force. You have to see EU trying these things in the same light.