Not so much "aiming" as doing it. The alternative already exists, is open-source, and used by 40,000 government users. By 2027 all government agencies will use it exclusively.
What is that option?
France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.
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#62This is the kind of thing France often wants to do yet never implements.
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#63Not so much "aiming" as doing it. The alternative already exists, is open-source, and used by 40,000 government users. By 2027 all government agencies will use it exclusively.
What is that option?
Visio from https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/
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#64My hope is that all this push towards tech independence (not just from EU) will make the most "basic" tools open-source and they wouldn't suck as much as they do now. What I mean by this is e.g. you can already use Linux on a desktop and it's generally okay (or even good sometimes), however things like LibreOffice are absolutely unusable in terms of performance, functionality and user friendliness compared to e.g. Ke…
It also doesn't feel like the mid 2000s anymore, where offline word/excel are essential for most day to day work. Most of the time I deal with csv downloads for data, or the shit PDFs that I can only fill in with the Adobe reader on windows. I can't recall the last time I fired up OnlyOffice (better MS garbage compatibility) for anything related to work. This doesn't mean that those tools are irrelevant, but signific…
Yeah, I’ve been able to use desktop Linux without many issues in a corporate environment. The main issue was the web version of office being incomplete. If corporate IT teams embraced it, I bet most companies could be free of Windows without too much issue.
The bigger problem seems to be the cloud services - teams, OneDrive, sharepoint and all the account management stuff.
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#65My hope is that all this push towards tech independence (not just from EU) will make the most "basic" tools open-source and they wouldn't suck as much as they do now. What I mean by this is e.g. you can already use Linux on a desktop and it's generally okay (or even good sometimes), however things like LibreOffice are absolutely unusable in terms of performance, functionality and user friendliness compared to e.g. Ke…
As much as I cheer for OpenOffice, it sucks. And it has been decades now. I'm not even an advanced Word / Google Doc user. Are we gonna wait for 100 more years for it to be good?
OpenOffice? Do you mean LibreOffice?
OpenOffice has been effectively dead for many years (though, maddeningly, Apache continues to publish it and squat the trademark); LibreOffice is the mainline where development continues.
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#66Can access X because it's X and locally blocked, "ironic" to use Twitter to post about sovereignty. It's ongoing for a will with La suite numérique ( https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/ ). - Tchap is a message app for officials, - Visio, based on LiveKit - FranceTransfert, I don't know what is it. - Fichiers => Drive - Messagerie => Email - Docs => A better Google Docs - Grist => Excel version of Google docs. It aimed…
Ironic to use Github to post about sovereignty )
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#67The inertia (or actively maintained status quo) in Europe towards the US platforms is massive.- LinkedIn
Anecdotally, I recently found myself in the local government building of a small European town. They run several free digitalisation classes for small businesses.
The options? Introductory classes to:
- WhatsApp business
- Facebook and Instagram ads
- Gsuite
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good luck with OVH. Most EU companies, including this one, offer subpar services compared to their American counterparts.
I agree with Scaleway (I would more compare it to Digital Ocean) but OVH is really good and comparable.
DigitalOcean is fantastic in my experience, way better than The Big Three, especially Azure.
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#69I wonder if the EU will begin trying to recruit American software engineers. I’d love to move to France.
I doubt Americans will even pick up the phone or respond to LinkedIn messages / emails when they will se the budgets for the software Engineering roles in the EU. I am saying that as an European, just to be clear.
With a baby on the way, I'd seriously consider it for their lifetime benefits. Where does one begin looking?
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#70I wish them luck, but while saying folks will drop the dominant apps seems all the rage at the moment people have been saying this for decades with almost no real progress at scale.
The only way to accomplish this at scale is to build something that is legit better and let the market decide. Anything else is just principled wishful thinking.