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#22

I wonder if the EU will begin trying to recruit American software engineers. I’d love to move to France.

Will not. You should love to move youself to pay 30% more taxes and work for 30% less salary (not sure what percentage to apply first).

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#23

I don't see the dependency on these productivity and communication tools as that difficult of a problem to solve. They are going to have a much harder time weaning off American cloud infrastructure and on to something purely domestic.

They need to do both the hard things and the easy things, and do them in parallel. Which they are.

Stop being reasonable!

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#24

I don't see the dependency on these productivity and communication tools as that difficult of a problem to solve. They are going to have a much harder time weaning off American cloud infrastructure and on to something purely domestic.

Depends how hooked into the "cloud infrastructure" ecosystem they are. If it's a provider of vms which are easy to move from one provider to another that's one thing, if it's reliant on the latest cool aws thing that's another.

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#25

For a fraction of what these products cost France could fund open source alternatives. Edit: I'm not saying they don't.

You mean something like LiveKit, with a basic implementation of user management etc such as https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet ?

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#26
Can access X because it's X and locally blocked, "ironic" to use Twitter to post about sovereignty.

It's ongoing for a will with La suite numérique (https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/).

- Tchap is a message app for officials, - Visio, based on LiveKit - FranceTransfert, I don't know what is it. - Fichiers => Drive - Messagerie => Email - Docs => A better Google Docs - Grist => Excel version of Google docs.

It aimed at "public worker", people working for the government.

Github: https://github.com/suitenumerique

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

#27

I wonder if the EU will begin trying to recruit American software engineers. I’d love to move to France.

I doubt Americans will even pick up the phone or respond to LinkedIn messages / emails when they will se the budgets for the software Engineering roles in the EU. I am saying that as an European, just to be clear.

Not everyone is optimizing for total comp. Some are optimizing for better lives. It's not a wild concept considering how many people get pulled into startups, 90% of which fail, under the guide of "mission" and lower market comp. Do you pick a mostly assured better quality of life? Or an equity payout lottery ticket/fairy tale? Certainly, there is a minority of folks making wild comp at FAANG, but that is a privileged minority of total tech and IT workers.

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#28

I wonder if the EU will begin trying to recruit American software engineers. I’d love to move to France.

Why wait? If you can get a work visa you might as well, independent of this push. English proficiency in France isn't amazing though (speaking as a Dutchman that visits France most summers), so learning French would be a big help.

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#29

I don't see the dependency on these productivity and communication tools as that difficult of a problem to solve. They are going to have a much harder time weaning off American cloud infrastructure and on to something purely domestic.

ScaleWay and OVH are already filling this gap.

Good luck with OVH. Most EU companies, including this one, offer subpar services compared to their American counterparts.
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