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Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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my parents live in Russia and my grandma has alzheimer's, so as a present "for her" I bought an airtag - so in case my mom loses grandma in a crowd she can be found. Little did I know, GPS jammers around the city make my grandma appear 50km away. Not Apple's fault of course.

AirTag itself doesn't have GPS, of course. It depends on the devices that communicate with the AirTag having precise location. IF you have a phone in Russia, are your maps apps off by 50km these days?

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

#62

Great to hear but it's still the same shape. I really want a 'credit card' shaped version I can slide into my wallet.

airtag compatible, shows up in Find My: https://nomadgoods.com/products/tracking-card

Do these have the ultra wide band chip? you lose a lot of utility without it.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

#63

does this update also enable precision finding from the watch? would this start working with the previous generation of airtags as well (currently you can use precision finding from your iphone, but not from the watch)

According the MacRumors, yes but they cant confirm if its only for the new AirTags yet:

"watchOS 26.2.1 is also coming, and it expands Precision Finding to the Apple Watch Series 9 and later, and Apple Watch Ultra 2 and later. We have not yet confirmed if this is for the new AirTag only or also works with the original model."

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

#64

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You can buy a third party wallet card that works with the Find My network just like an AirTag.

I could be wrong but third party tags bet a subset of the tracking capabilities? Ie less accurate/less likely to be found.

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Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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I read they are popular with drug distributors. They ship their merch world wide using various hidden channels and couriers and this helps keep track of the merch.

Sounds like one of those "what if..." things someone made up.

AirTags are terrible for surreptitious tracking, alerting every iOS user nearby of a tracked product following them around.

I mean, years ago people, such as stalkers, would use it for this purpose, but Apple rightly gimped that. There are a lot of specialized, self-connected trackers that creeps and criminals use.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Are they less prone to stalking? All I see is generic corpo "industry security" verbiage

The way Find My has been built, it doesn't really matter what they do with the tags, it's fairly straightforward to build your own tags, or modify tags, that bypass any stalking detection.

A phone's stalking detection just looks for a tag that's not yours that has been around you for a while.

But you can modify a tag such that it selectively powers up, or build a tag that changes identifiers, such that the stalking detection tools don't pick it up.

I've written a bit about this here: https://www.hotelexistence.ca/further-thoughts-on-stealth-ai... https://www.hotelexistence.ca/exploring-bluetooth-trackers-a...

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Have you not seen the stories? Put one of these on the underside of an ex's car

And it would notify your ex that you did so, no? Apple has already done more than enough to discourage stalking. We shouldn’t nerf all our technology to the ground because assholes exist.

It's too late when they are notified. The last known address is where the victim is at.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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> The new AirTag is designed with the environment in mind, with 85 percent recycled plastic in the enclosure, 100 percent recycled rare earth elements in all magnets, and 100 percent recycled gold plating in all Apple-designed printed circuit boards. The paper packaging is 100 percent fiber-based and can be easily recycled. I'm no material scientist, but this seems pretty impressive to me that Apple's economy of scal…

Building an attachment point into the tag itself is still beyond current technology though. We just don't know how to do it.

this is the smallest attachment loop i've found. It's rock solid https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09CPTS8JG?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_...
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