Original paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-67657-w
Scientists identify brain waves that define the limits of 'you'
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Scientists identify brain waves that define the limits of 'you'
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Re: Scientists identify brain waves that define the limits of 'you'
#2Original Paper: Parietal alpha frequency shapes own-body perception by modulating the temporal integration of bodily signals, https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-67657-w
Re: Scientists identify brain waves that define the limits of 'you'
#3FTA:
> With a third group of participants, they used a non-invasive technique called transcranial alternating current stimulation to speed up or slow down the frequency of a person's alpha waves. And sure enough, this seemed to correlate with how real a fake hand felt.
I know this is largely orthogonal to the article, and I know what “non-invasive” means and why it’s used in this sentence, but it made me chuckle - “this technique that changed the subject’s brain waves sufficient to literally impact their sense of self - but don’t worry! It’s non-invasive!”
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#4The manipulation part is what fascinates me. They didn't just correlate alpha wave frequency with ownership perception. They used transcranial stimulation to artificially speed up or slow down the waves, and the subjective experience changed accordingly.
That's a pretty direct causal link between a measurable brain state and something as fundamental as "where does my body end?"
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#5I don't exist and that's okay
Re: Scientists identify brain waves that define the limits of 'you'
#6I don't exist and that's okay
Flips switch
How about now?
Re: Scientists identify brain waves that define the limits of 'you'
#7Wow, that’s really interesting! It seems like alpha waves are the ‘tick rate’ of this system, and some set number of ticks are required to update the body model?
Re: Scientists identify brain waves that define the limits of 'you'
#8FTA: > With a third group of participants, they used a non-invasive technique called transcranial alternating current stimulation to speed up or slow down the frequency of a person's alpha waves. And sure enough, this seemed to correlate with how real a fake hand felt. I know this is largely orthogonal to the article, and I know what “non-invasive” means and why it’s used in this sentence, but it made me chuckle - “t…
It’s not an invasion, it’s just a “special operation”!
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#10FTA: > With a third group of participants, they used a non-invasive technique called transcranial alternating current stimulation to speed up or slow down the frequency of a person's alpha waves. And sure enough, this seemed to correlate with how real a fake hand felt. I know this is largely orthogonal to the article, and I know what “non-invasive” means and why it’s used in this sentence, but it made me chuckle - “t…
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