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Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
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#82That's crazy. That's like ~40% of the deaths in the current gaza war, except over just 2 days instead of 2 years.
I can’t even imagine how this could be done. Nazi concentration camps would have had trouble killing that many in 2 days.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most obvious bait ever
It's definitely bait but there is definitely not the same reaction to this among that group of people and when one asks the question "why?", there aren't a multitude if explanations that come to mind.
I guess that Iran felt like the strongest opponent to Israel, its history was not widely known by the protesters, and so it takes a little more to distance yourself.
There's maybe some disquiet in realizing that they're not someone you can side with, too.
And for sure some of the outlets followed by the protesters have ties to Iran, sadly.
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#84This is certainly the end of peaceful Iranian protests. Whether it leads to a violent revolution or a static police state like North Korea remains to be seen.
Seems the regime is OK shooting their way out of this problem. How big are these protests? 30K isn't exactly a small number of protestors.
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#86hm, I think we should re-evaluate sanctioning or civilian pressure campaigns, since the guise is for them to coax or turn on the government for regime change, but the government can just hire mercenaries from outside the country. don't know a solution but this one isn't it
>the government can just hire mercenaries from outside the country.
Machiavelli in Discourses on Livy says you are inviting an overthrow of your government by doing this.
The mercenaries can flip sides if the opposite faction pays them and offers them better terms... or maybe the mercs just flip.
Hard to say how true this is.
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#88That's crazy. That's like ~40% of the deaths in the current gaza war, except over just 2 days instead of 2 years.
I've read a ton of philosophy and something I don't really understand is that one nation killing another is more immoral than when a nation does this to their own domestic population. Sure you will get some nay-sayers who say 'a life is a life', if moral particles existed, they might be correct. But for some reason, humanity doesn't seem to care as much. What makes intra-state politics more acceptable to use violence…
Because the international order is fundamentally anarchic, while domestic orders are (supposed to be at least) nomic, structured by law and rights. Yes, there are attempts at creating international law, but these amount to treaties more than a structured, visible, governing law.
Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
#89That's crazy. That's like ~40% of the deaths in the current gaza war, except over just 2 days instead of 2 years.
I've read a ton of philosophy and something I don't really understand is that one nation killing another is more immoral than when a nation does this to their own domestic population. Sure you will get some nay-sayers who say 'a life is a life', if moral particles existed, they might be correct. But for some reason, humanity doesn't seem to care as much. What makes intra-state politics more acceptable to use violence…
> I've read a ton of philosophy and something I don't really understand is that one nation killing another is more immoral than when a nation does this to their own domestic population.
Which books say that?