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ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by brendoelfrendo »

trimethylpurine wrote: post #375
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not even that big of a leap. We've seen a off-duty ICE agent drunk driving his child, getting stopped by the cops, implied threats to one of the officers for being black with payback, spent the whole time saying "come on man" using his position as a federal officer as a way to get out of trouble, and ends to the point that I wanted to make, complained about his and I quote "bitch ex-wife" for divorcing him. What…

> What is stopping this lowlife Same as with all other crime, we hope it's the law that stops him. We hope that more policemen want to be good men than bad. The illusion of safety is based on the honor system. Society doesn't work without that.

That assumes that the people who enforce the law want good people to be police officers, and that has never been the case. It is certainly not the case with our current ICE officers.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by KennyBlanken »

neilv wrote: post #287
tasty_freeze wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It reminds me of when Eric Schmidt, then CEO of google, tried that argument about people's worry of google collecting so much personal data. Some media outlet then published a bunch of personal information about Schmidt they had gathered using only google searches, including where he lives, his salary, his political donations, and where his kids went to school. Schmidt was not amused.

That questionable-sounding stunt by the media outlet wasn't comparable: Google/Alphabet knows much more about individuals than addresses, salary, and political donations. Google/Alphabet knows quite a lot about your sentiments, what information you've seen, your relationships, who can get to you, who you can get to, your hopes and fears, your economic situation, your health conditions, assorted kompromat, your moveme…

The research that kicked off Google was funded by US intelligence orgs.

Stop pretending like Schmidt was or is "one of the good guys." They all knew from day one what the score was.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by [deleted] »

paganel wrote: post #222
andy99 wrote: post #73

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> less coverage or discussion than a new version of jQuery Pretty sure this is a feature not a bug. Most people aren’t here for political topics.

When the computer code many of us are working on is directly shaping that politics I think that we should talk about it and stop hiding behind the bush.

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by whynotmaybe »

hackable_sand wrote: post #435
lvl155 wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually think it’s best that HN flags and removes them because we are quickly entering a stage in this country where you will be flagged by the government monitoring the internet. I would caution people to start using VPN and continuously flush your IPs. I would even go as far as to recommend removing face ID from your devices which basically offers zero protection once you’re detained (or have a quick way to disa…

You want us to hide in our own country?

It's becoming worse on a daily basis.

People are starting to get angry and if enough people are angry, this will lead to either government change or repression.

If it's repression, you're not ready for what's coming.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by mercanlIl »

noncoml wrote: post #176
eoskx wrote: post #14

Glad to see this post didn't get flagged like the one that was posted yesterday on a similar topic about ICE data mining and user tracking. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46748336

It is really disheartening and sad to see this community burying its head in the sand and ignoring what’s happening to our country

As a non-American, I like the way HN is moderated. This isn’t an American politics and domestic issues forum.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by fuckyah »

simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by torstenvl »

UncleMeat wrote: post #445
TeMPOraL wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it is the right thing to do for "this topic violates HN guidelines both in letter and in spirit, as well as predictably causing low-quality discussion threads".

We do not agree that it violates the HN guidelines, either in letter or in spirit.

> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics

> Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

To the latter point, hundreds of comments in, and nobody has even brought up the intellectual curiosity angle of this (what limits are in place to the Federal government using data from Federal programs for law enforcement purposes? and does it matter if the program is administered by individual states?).

Instead it's just political rage bait, including citing the Rev Niemöller poem as if we're talking about Nazis.

(It used to be part of Internet culture that the moment you compared something mundane to the Nazis, you automatically lost the argument and were mocked mercilessly. We should bring that back.)

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by skulk »

libpcap wrote: post #308

Immigration laws, like any other laws, need to be enforced, right?

Like that law that says it's illegal to HIRE workers that cannot show work authorization? IIRC that carries pretty steep penalties. And if enforced, will have a huge chilling effect on the whole illegal immigration thing. But, as sibling commenters have pointed out, it's not about enforcing laws but punishing outgroups. This is only not obvious to the willfully ignorant.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by hackable_sand »

ahtihn wrote: post #440
filoeleven wrote: post #170

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The "hide" link is right next to the "flag" link. Using flag instead of hide puts more strain on the mods, and is not the right thing to do for "this topic doesn't apply to my interests."

What if I would prefer that these topics don't show up at all? What if I'm concerned that leaving such topics up would attract more of the kind of people that prefer discussing these topics over tech topics? Hiding doesn't fix the problem.

> Hiding doesn't fix the problem.

There is no way you just wrote this wtffff

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by maest »

nailer wrote: post #454
saubeidl wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Armed goons terrorizing cities, dragging people out to brutalize and murder them is not "something very normal". It's what the brown shirts did.

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"Come right in, the water is fine" said the frog in the pot.
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