ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data • Hacker News Board

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by cma256 » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 10:13 PM UTC

pyrophane wrote: post #386

cma256 wrote: post #337

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If citizenship is required to vote then how would accessing voter rolls suppress liberal voters? Honest question; I'm not concern trolling. I had to Google who's allowed to vote. I found this article[1] by the Brennan Center. It alleges this is an attempted federal takeover of elections but it doesn't suggest or allude to voter suppression. I'm not convinced by the article that having access to voter rolls can be con…

Honestly my real fear is ICE agents at polling places on Election Day harassing would-be voters with citizenship checks and aggressive behavior, slowing things down and maybe causing some people to leave. Regarding voter data though, if it becomes known that registering to vote as a minority will get you extra scrutiny from ICE, and perhaps a visit to your home, that would probably cause some citizens avoid voting al…

Thanks. I understand now.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 10:14 PM UTC

cma256 wrote: post #337

jayd16 wrote: post #249

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Pam Bondi is now demanding voter rolls. It's clearly about suppressing liberal voters in liberal areas through a show of force. They're using this data to optimize who to harass.

If citizenship is required to vote then how would accessing voter rolls suppress liberal voters? Honest question; I'm not concern trolling. I had to Google who's allowed to vote. I found this article[1] by the Brennan Center. It alleges this is an attempted federal takeover of elections but it doesn't suggest or allude to voter suppression. I'm not convinced by the article that having access to voter rolls can be con…

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by AngryData » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 10:14 PM UTC

billy99k wrote: post #366

yks wrote: post #80

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How about this: no masks, no weapons (if they feel they are in danger they can call the cops who already have more weapons than they possibly need). Every time a citizen is detained in jail, detaining agent and their manager lose their paycheck for that period. Family with kids jailed and separated? No paycheck. You know, do it in the Christian compassionate way, not in the shooting single moms way.

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You are saying cops should ignore constitutional law in support of ICE? That is absolutely bonkers. This is the United STATES, not the Supreme Authority of the Federal Government.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by amelius » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 10:15 PM UTC

mikelitoris wrote: post #58

Analemma_ wrote: post #20

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It’s not gonna happen. The people who work at Palantir, if they’re not just there for the money, think they’re doing the right thing, they see themselves as keeping the country safe and improving government efficiency (and who could be against that?)

Nobody thinks that. They are there for money.

Money, or these IT folks derive pride from the technical challenge of building the tool, whatever its purpose. Or both.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by jfyi » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 10:15 PM UTC

actionfromafar wrote: post #372

jfyi wrote: post #306

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I need to get this super power. I am lucky to get to vote for people that don't believe in a religious ethno-state.

I think it must depend on the country, right?

Yeah, or county... but same kind of difference.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by anigbrowl » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 10:16 PM UTC

libpcap wrote: post #308

Immigration laws, like any other laws, need to be enforced, right?

Have you actually read immigration laws? They are not as Manichean or prescriptive as many commenters make them out to be. Enforcement-first proponents often seem unaware of or indifferent to the difference between civil and riminal violations and the lack of mandatory remedies. I've also noticed a distinct tendency to hyperbolize and outsize lie about past policy choices in order to justify their position.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by cauch » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 10:16 PM UTC

libpcap wrote: post #308

Immigration laws, like any other laws, need to be enforced, right?

A lot of people who support the current US government do not want the laws to be enforced, they just want to see people who look brown or foreigners to be deported, regardless of if they are in the US legally or illegally.

The immigration laws are saying that we should stop illegal immigration, but respect the legal immigration. And because of that, it means that each case should be carefully treated to discover if the person is illegal or not.

But a majority of people supporting the crack-down on immigration are more than happy to see 10 innocents being deported if it means 1 illegal being deported, and they will wave around the illegal being deported to explain that before the crack-down, the law was not respected, forgetting that the current situation is breaking the law way more than the previous one (before: 1 illegal not deported, 1 error. after: 10 innocents being deported, 10 errors).

In other words: if you care about the law, you cannot "pick and choose" and say "the laws are not respected because 1 illegal is not deported" but also "10 innocents are being deported, this breaks the law, but this does not count".

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by jayd16 » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 10:16 PM UTC

cma256 wrote: post #385

neumann wrote: post #358

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I don't understand your question. What does citizenship got to do with this?

I thought GP was arguing they were trying to find non-citizens on the voter rolls to intimidate them (which may be a misreading).

They'll claim they're doing that but intimidate citizens instead.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 10:16 PM UTC

JKCalhoun wrote: post #339

nailer wrote: post #325

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Someone bought a Sig Sauer gun that’s known to go off when moved suddenly (you can find as many videos as you want on the issue) - grabbed an agent and resisted arrest. The gun went off during the arrest, officers thought the man was firing at them. It’s tragic - the way to prevent this is to increase calm, give the federal officers some support, stop conspiracy theories (eg like the boy that abandoned by his father…

Has there been an investigation?

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by Loughla » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 10:17 PM UTC

abustamam wrote: post #364

tombert wrote: post #326

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Without going into a long tangent talking about each point, I would like to point out that ICE doesn't actually seem terribly concerned with whether or not the people are illegal aliens or criminals. The last two people they murdered were US citizens, there are many US citizens, some natural born, that have been detained. If they have access to all this information that was volunteered, then why are they so utterly i…

To add onto that, Palantir is a private company. They have no business having that much of my data without my consent, with no way to opt out.

Yeah I don't give a shit about the illegal immigrant situation. I don't want that agency to have all of my information for no reason at all. There's is no world in which that is appropriate, regardless of your views on immigration.