Yes, It's Fascism • Hacker News Board

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by michaelbarton » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 9:34 PM UTC

fallinghawks wrote: post #42

tombert wrote: post #17

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The killings are horrifying in their own right, but the most disturbing part to me is how quickly the Trump administration will just declare these people as "terrorists" before any kind of investigation has happened. This suggests to me there is some level of systemic intent (or at least ambivalence) with this administration's use of ICE's use of lethal force. It is beyond concerning. This admin is now very literally…

It's appalling how they go straight to making things up to suit their narrative, as if video evidence doesn't exist. They know the MAGAs will believe them, and may shed doubt on interpretation for people who aren't that curious about truth. A lie can travel halfway around the world, as they say.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

I remember reading 1984 when I was a kid and enjoying it, at no point did I think it was more than sci-fi though. I suppose it goes to show how much we took for granted the last 80+ years.

It also makes me respect Orwell so much more. Which was already very high based on how he makes tea. How was he able to see you presciently?

https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwel...

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by fugalfervor » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 9:34 PM UTC

njhnjhnjhnjh wrote: post #73

fugalfervor wrote: post #69

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Is it against the rules to call fascism fascism? That's pretty disturbing.

Why is the post flagged? Obviously it's against the rules. edit: I challenge you to post a comment labelling the United States government "fascists" in this front-page thread about ICE: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46756117 It won't stay up for long.

Why is a brand new account (yours) rushing to flagged threads with the party line? It looks like you registered just to post in this thread.

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by array_key_first » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 9:34 PM UTC

quercus wrote: post #72

mickle00 wrote: post #48

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source? The mainstream media is not covering the many daily protests I see in my area, and hear and see from friends and family elsewhere. However, I do think the majority of Americans do not have the luxury (or fear of losing their job, and thus their healthcare, etc) to just walk out on their jobs or responsibilities, and the social safety nets here are limited (and being further cut by this administration). I do t…

They literally voted for it.

They voted for something else, they were conned by populist messaging.

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by tstrimple » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 9:34 PM UTC

protastus wrote: post #59

The Trump administration has gone so far down the path of fascism and crime that I'm convinced they don't simply want to be in power indefinitely -- they need it. Otherwise, the moment a law-abiding president gets elected, there will be criminal charges against all involved. And there's no statute of limitations for murder. I believe this country will need massive investigations and criminal trials to heal. I am conc…

Unfortunately liberals seem to care far more about "unity" than justice in any sense. They have been letting conservatives get away with damaging our country repeatedly throughout the decades and always welcome them back with open bipartisan arms. Maybe we could have nipped this in the bud if the confederate states were forced to de-radicalize like Germany was. Instead literal traitors to our country were right back to running for national office again and have been sowing dissent literally ever since. How many Democrats just voted for even more ICE funding for fucks sake?

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by donkey_brains » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 9:35 PM UTC

mistermaster1 wrote: post #80

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Ah yes, the “no true fascism” fallacy. Thanks for posting your half-thought out defense of the party that is murdering citizens in the street! I’m sure they appreciate your attempts to keep their jackboots shiny.

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by twistah » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 9:35 PM UTC

selecsosi wrote: post #52

lamontcg wrote: post #45

People are kind of missing the fact that you can draw a line from slave catchers and slave patrols to ICE. You don't have to go through Germany.

If anything, there's lots of writing on how Germany was ultimately inspired by socio-political events here in the USA on how to conduct their fascist behavior.

Read "Hitler's American Model". He loved what the American South was doing; the Nuremberg Race Laws were directly inspired by Jim Crow.

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 9:35 PM UTC

njhnjhnjhnjh wrote: post #73

fugalfervor wrote: post #69

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Is it against the rules to call fascism fascism? That's pretty disturbing.

Why is the post flagged? Obviously it's against the rules. edit: I challenge you to post a comment labelling the United States government "fascists" in this front-page thread about ICE: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46756117 It won't stay up for long.

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Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by RealityVoid » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 9:37 PM UTC

mistermaster1 wrote: post #80

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> True fascism would not allow the massive criticism and outrage (including by active lawmakers and heads of state & local governments) that recent events have reasonably led to.

It hasn't yet captured the whole country. The parts of criticism they have had the power to silence, they have already silenced. Who's in the White House press corps again?

When they will capture all the power they need, the criticism will be silenced.

I fear that we might not see a definitive Democratic win though at the midterms. I think your country is already past the point of no return and your population is just not getting it yet.

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 9:37 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #78

njhnjhnjhnjh wrote: post #73

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Why is the post flagged? Obviously it's against the rules. edit: I challenge you to post a comment labelling the United States government "fascists" in this front-page thread about ICE: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46756117 It won't stay up for long.

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Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by tstrimple » Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 9:39 PM UTC

RealityVoid wrote: post #6

I actually think that there is an amalgam of ideologies here (I know, so very fascist of them). Trump is more of a monarchist. A lot of the people supporting him are outright fascists. Some are plain idiots. Them winning absolute control over the country would be a disaster for their movement though. They'd turn to internal fighting, the entropy of victory and all that. And they don't seem terribly competent with gov…

The flagging system has been systematically gamed for restricting content for years now. I don't think the mods deserve any praise for occasionally doing something about it. They are ultimately complicit in the state of things being hidden on this site. It's "working as expected".