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Yes, It's Fascism

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Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by mickle00 »

blibble wrote: post #40
RealityVoid wrote: post #6

I actually think that there is an amalgam of ideologies here (I know, so very fascist of them). Trump is more of a monarchist. A lot of the people supporting him are outright fascists. Some are plain idiots. Them winning absolute control over the country would be a disaster for their movement though. They'd turn to internal fighting, the entropy of victory and all that. And they don't seem terribly competent with gov…

> Them winning absolute control over the country would be a disaster for their movement though. They'd turn to internal fighting, the entropy of victory and all that. that would be after they've finished executing the undesirables? I am quite amazed that the 2nd amendment people seem to be the ones that are cheering on the federal gestapo

>I am quite amazed that the 2nd amendment people seem to be the ones that are cheering on the federal gestapo

"Rights for me, not for thee"

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by convolvatron »

renewiltord wrote: post #41

It's true. This kind of authoritarian state violence is pretty reminiscent of fascism. Especially what looks like a gangland execution of a man who could only ever be described as exercising his 2A rights by carrying a firearm undrawn legally under his CCW. However, the list of things that have been called fascism are so long that I have to admit that my eyes initially glazed over the headline because many things hav…

you're saying that because as recently as 10 years ago, some people were warning about fascism taking hold in the United States, and even though they turned out to be right, they should have held off using that word until we reached this moment, where no sensible person would argue.

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by mingus88 »

mickle00 wrote: post #54
mingus88 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then why isn’t ICE in the states with the most immigrants?

logic would indicate that its either (or both) (1) its not about immigration (it's about power and control thru fear) or (2) they're idiots

Agreed. If this were about enforcing immigration law, they would first focus on red states with huge immigrant populations, where they would have full cooperation from the local government and citizens who overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Those supporters who care about enforcing immigration laws would directly benefit.

This is obviously violence directed at Minnesota, who is led by a political opponent. It’s capital F Fascism and everyone on the right has grandfathers that are ashamed of them.

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by mickle00 »

noitpmeder wrote: post #39
jmclnx wrote: post #2

No doubt with that, ICE seems to be able to kill when and whomever they want. ICE looks close to the brown shirts in Germany in the 30s.

They're basically jackboots, I have to imagine almost entirely composed of the republican far right. Just imagine the echo chamber that exists within their ranks. They literally just murdered someone in cold blood. Textbook execution without trial. And have some of the most powerful people in the world saying how brave they are and how great of a job they did executing their duty. Their entire recruiting process has…

ICE being the highest funded U.S. law enforcement agency is so sad, and so fucked

https://www.kuow.org/stories/how-ice-grew-to-be-the-highest-...

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by EmanueleAina »

le-mark wrote: post #38
wslh wrote: post #18

I don’t understand how there aren’t demonstrations happening almost everywhere in the US by now.

Itis horrendous by any measure. But Fox and conservative media amplify and support it all. Trump voters by and large love the deportations; I know this from my in laws over the holidays. If a few eggs get broken they really don’t care. Notice red states have none of this because Trump focuses ICE on blue states. Protests are what Trump wants. He would like nothing better than marshal law and cancelling the mid terms.…

You are not wrong. But history also somewhat shows that appeasement is even worse.

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by mnicky »

protastus wrote: post #59

The Trump administration has gone so far down the path of fascism and crime that I'm convinced they don't simply want to be in power indefinitely -- they need it. Otherwise, the moment a law-abiding president gets elected, there will be criminal charges against all involved. And there's no statute of limitations for murder. I believe this country will need massive investigations and criminal trials to heal. I am conc…

Didn't the same happen after Biden was elected? And see, it achieved nothing, regrettably...

Re: Yes, It's Fascism

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Post by beardyw »

RealityVoid wrote: post #6

I actually think that there is an amalgam of ideologies here (I know, so very fascist of them). Trump is more of a monarchist. A lot of the people supporting him are outright fascists. Some are plain idiots. Them winning absolute control over the country would be a disaster for their movement though. They'd turn to internal fighting, the entropy of victory and all that. And they don't seem terribly competent with gov…

> Trump is more of a monarchist

Monarchs are in place without democratic support, so they have little incentive to be popular (though not unpopular either). Not being involved in politics often results in them having a distant concern for their subjects. They rarely instigate policy making. Doesn't sound like Trump.

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