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Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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Post by CamperBob2 »

arthurcolle wrote: post #81
jacquesm wrote: post #79

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Gah that sucks. I've looked at the hardware specs and basically ended up drooling over it and realizing that my homebrew stuff will never be able to compete. But the optics alone on that DJI stuff is nothing short of science fiction compared to what you can put together on a hobbyists budget. But for $7K you can build an octocopter with twice the range and twice the payload, which may not be as impressive on paper bu…

Since them I've acquired a 3D printer, so I've increased the surface area of expensive things I can break. If I can ever figure out how to repurpose some of these electronics maybe for some kind of AI robot (yes, the gimbal + camera optics are so nice, it feels like a sci fi eyeball from 2037!) I will be back in business. Some people sell exploits to "jailbreaks DJI drone firmware but with current US admin I don't th…

I just had too much experience trying to get around these restrictions to actually believe that they'd drop the geofencing, especially after a consumer drone ban.

DJI has got to be pretty sore about the ban. The geofencing was always voluntary on their part as I understand it, basically an attempt to proactively engage with the US and other aviation authorities in good faith. Then, when Trump blew up the truce by ordering the FCC not to approve future products, they may have felt they had no reason to continue to cooperate.

That's what I was wondering -- whether or not that speculation really does describe the situation accurately. If it does, it sounds like good news for you, since that hardware may now be usable after a firmware update. I only have a 249g first-gen Mini, myself... and being out in the middle of nowhere, I don't know if it ever had those restrictions to begin with.

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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Post by CamperBob2 »

hwillis wrote: post #62
frumplestlatz wrote: post #17

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The people of Minneapolis are defending their right to accept foreigners into their community. Do you genuinely think those people are being paid? That all those protestors don't genuinely feel that way? That the majority in that state don't, as the polls say, want those people there? If you really think that people in Texas and Florida have the right to say who gets to live in Minnesota , why?

I think most people would agree that the country has a right to enforce its border integrity -- after all, that's sort of a prerequisite for being a sovereign nation.

But not with an unaccountable, unidentifiable, largely-untrained, and "absolutely immune" paramilitary police force, forcibly deployed in cities that don't want them there. Cities that are, in any event, nowhere near any borders.

This isn't really about immigration enforcement. If it were, then what ICE was doing under Biden was more effective than what Trump is doing now, just going by the numbers. There is a widespread conspiracy theory, to which I wholeheartedly subscribe, that maintains that Trump is deliberately trying to provoke circumstances that will justify his use of the Insurrection Act or other quasi-legal shenanigans to ratfuck the midterm elections.

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

#103

Post by ottah »

This is literally been the entire purpose of all drone regulations. Hobby aircraft have never been a legitimate public safety issue, but they are an issue for the state's ability to hide. There is and will always be a public interest in recording activity happening in public places, but a majority of drone laws essentially make it impossible to legally record public events from a private drone.

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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Post by shawn_w »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #89
salawat wrote: post #85

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Not quite. Religion, when taught properly, can serve as an innoculant against corrupt states, as it ingrains a kernel of understanding that man, and all his works are flawed, falling short of the perfection only attainable by the divine. There is always something higher worth maintaining loyalty toward. Like most things though, practicing that doesn't make you super popular with "leaders of worship" who wield their p…

I agree wholeheartedly. Religion, practiced as designed, is extremely positive in my experience. I think the issue is that religion is and has been abused throughout history. I’m really not sure how to deal with this issue though. It seems the Abrahamic religion are quite vulnerable to this kind of abuse, likely because a core part of the doctrine is submission to authority. I’ve never seen a Buddhist led genocide fo…

I don't know if it ever was labeled a genocide, but Sri Lanka has a long history of Buddhist lead attacks against Tamils and other minorities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

#105

Post by lotsofpulp »

scoofy wrote: post #100
gtowey wrote: post #52

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> I hope this gets tested in court and declared unconstitutional The rule of law has left the building. The SC is willing to rubber-stamp nearly anything right now. Waiting and hoping for common sense to prevail is what allows authoritarian regimes to bulldoze through existing laws and norms. Even if the courts were an avenue for redress, they are being overwhelmed by the daily barrage of new illegal and unconstituti…

If you think the SCOTUS has been arbitrarily rubber stamping the administration's goals, you haven't been paying attention. I'll fully agree with you it appears to have been fairly partisan, but less than a month again they blocked the administration from deploying the national guard to states: >In one of its most consequential rulings of the year, just before breaking for the holidays last week the Supreme Court hel…

But they also said the president can’t be punished for doing illegal things, so what difference does it make?

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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Post by halfmatthalfcat »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #105
scoofy wrote: post #100

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If you think the SCOTUS has been arbitrarily rubber stamping the administration's goals, you haven't been paying attention. I'll fully agree with you it appears to have been fairly partisan, but less than a month again they blocked the administration from deploying the national guard to states: >In one of its most consequential rulings of the year, just before breaking for the holidays last week the Supreme Court hel…

But they also said the president can’t be punished for doing illegal things, so what difference does it make?

That’s not what they ruled.

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Post by yoyohello13 »

shawn_w wrote: post #104
yoyohello13 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree wholeheartedly. Religion, practiced as designed, is extremely positive in my experience. I think the issue is that religion is and has been abused throughout history. I’m really not sure how to deal with this issue though. It seems the Abrahamic religion are quite vulnerable to this kind of abuse, likely because a core part of the doctrine is submission to authority. I’ve never seen a Buddhist led genocide fo…

I don't know if it ever was labeled a genocide, but Sri Lanka has a long history of Buddhist lead attacks against Tamils and other minorities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence

Fair enough. Seems like the common thread is religion + government = atrocities

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

#108

Post by seattle_spring »

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #106
lotsofpulp wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they also said the president can’t be punished for doing illegal things, so what difference does it make?

That’s not what they ruled.

How so? The ruling was that he had full immunity during "presidential duties", which has many times been interpreted by the SC as "anything he wants to do while president."

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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Post by gcanyon »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #34
dayofthedaleks wrote: post #4

Bubble of protection is 3000 feet laterally and 1000 feet vertically. From the article: “Unlike traditional Temporary Flight Restrictions, the NOTAM does not provide geographic coordinates, activation times, or public notification when the restriction is in effect near a specific location. Instead, the restricted airspace moves with DHS assets, meaning the no-fly zone can appear wherever ICE or other DHS units operat…

One of the hallmarks of authoritarianism is to have laws that are virtually impossible to not break. I hope this gets tested in court and declared unconstitutional for being overly vague and arbitrary. For example, Montana used to have some maximum speed limits that were just "reasonable and prudent", but they were eventually rejected by courts as being too vague (what's prudent to you may not be prudent to someone e…

One time I was racing across the country in a moving van because my wife was injured. The truck was speed-governed to 75 mph, which I was sitting at for most of the trip. I have a picture of the back of a school bus that handily passed me by on highway 90 :-)

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

#110

Post by bonsai_spool »

scoofy wrote: post #100
gtowey wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I hope this gets tested in court and declared unconstitutional The rule of law has left the building. The SC is willing to rubber-stamp nearly anything right now. Waiting and hoping for common sense to prevail is what allows authoritarian regimes to bulldoze through existing laws and norms. Even if the courts were an avenue for redress, they are being overwhelmed by the daily barrage of new illegal and unconstituti…

If you think the SCOTUS has been arbitrarily rubber stamping the administration's goals, you haven't been paying attention. I'll fully agree with you it appears to have been fairly partisan, but less than a month again they blocked the administration from deploying the national guard to states: >In one of its most consequential rulings of the year, just before breaking for the holidays last week the Supreme Court hel…

> they blocked the administration from deploying the national guard to states

That is not what the decision stated - there was even a quote from a justice saying that the administration could easily attain the same result with a different legal mechanism, all but encouraging such a change in behavior.

Edit: the ‘improperly’ portion of your quote is the operative term

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