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ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by dashundchen »

loeg wrote: post #6

Why would Medicaid have the data of anyone who is at risk of immigration enforcement? The reported connection seems tenuous: > The tool – dubbed Enhanced Leads Identification & Targeting for Enforcement (ELITE) – receives peoples’ addresses from the Department of Health and Human Services (which includes Medicaid) and other sources, 404 Media reports based on court testimony in Oregon by law enforcement agents, among…

ICE has been harassing and following legal observers to their houses. They've shot and executed at least two people who were exercising their legal right to record their activity.

The FBI has been showing up at the door of some people who dare to organize protests against ICE.

Stingrays have been deployed to protests, ICE is collecting photos of protestors for their database, and has been querying YCombinator funded Flock to pull automated license plate camera data from around the country. Trump, Vance, Noem and Miller are calling anyone who protests them domestic terrorists.

It's pretty clear this isn't just about immigration, that this is about pooling data for a surveillance state that can quash the constitutional rights of anyone who dares to oppose the current regime. We've seen this story before.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by ungreased0675 »

j16sdiz wrote: post #15
plagiarist wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same people saying that will also defend police wearing masks, hiding badges, and shutting off body cameras. They are not participating in discussions with the same values (truth, integrity) that you have. Logic does not work on people who believe Calvinistic predestination is the right model for society.

Wait. Is calvinistic predestination the majority view of republicans? I thought most of them are some form of (tv) evangelism, or secularism I am not American and genuinely curious on this.

No, none of that is true.

Remember, Republicans represent half the country, not some isolated sect living in small town Appalachia.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by skrebbel »

ck_one wrote: post #16
simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

This is the moment for Europe to show that you can do gov and business differently. If they get their s** together and actually present a viable alternative.

How is it not viable now?

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by sosomoxie »

koolba wrote: post #19
simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

> The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. There’s a world of difference between a government using legally collected data for multiple purposes and an individual abusing their position purely for personal reasons.

The parent's example is of an individual using that "legal" state collected data for nefarious purposes. Once it's collected, anyone who accesses it is a threat vector. Also, governments (including/especially the US) have historically killed, imprisoned and tortured millions and millions of people. There's nothing to be gained by an individual for allowing government access to their data.

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Post by blurbleblurble »

simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

Respect, thank you for using your voice.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by TacticalCoder »

simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

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