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FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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I've seen the latest video and it was murder beyond any reasonable doubt. The ICE agent drew his gun and shot the man in the back at least four times while he was kneeling on the ground and being beaten and kicked by other ICE agents. That's a fact. I must assume you haven't watched the video.

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Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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> ALL UNMANNED ACFT ARE PROHIBITED FROM FLYING WITHIN A STAND-OFF DISTANCE OF 3000FT ... LATERALLY AND 1000FT ABOVE ...

> TO: DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE (DOD), DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY (DOE), AND DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY (DHS) FACILITIES AND MOBILE ASSETS, INCLUDING VESSELS AND GROUND VEHICLE CONVOYS AND THEIR ASSOCIATED ESCORTS, SUCH AS UNITED STATES COAST GUARD (USCG) OPERATED VESSELS

Much more restrictive than just ICE operations.

See also: https://udds-faa.opendata.arcgis.com/search

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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Bubble of protection is 3000 feet laterally and 1000 feet vertically. From the article: “Unlike traditional Temporary Flight Restrictions, the NOTAM does not provide geographic coordinates, activation times, or public notification when the restriction is in effect near a specific location. Instead, the restricted airspace moves with DHS assets, meaning the no-fly zone can appear wherever ICE or other DHS units operat…

So the unannounced movements of the secret police in their unmarked vehicles also create a bubble around them where usually-legal activity is illegal?

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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Bubble of protection is 3000 feet laterally and 1000 feet vertically. From the article: “Unlike traditional Temporary Flight Restrictions, the NOTAM does not provide geographic coordinates, activation times, or public notification when the restriction is in effect near a specific location. Instead, the restricted airspace moves with DHS assets, meaning the no-fly zone can appear wherever ICE or other DHS units operat…

One of the hallmarks of authoritarianism is to have laws that are virtually impossible to not break.

I hope this gets tested in court and declared unconstitutional for being overly vague and arbitrary. For example, Montana used to have some maximum speed limits that were just "reasonable and prudent", but they were eventually rejected by courts as being too vague (what's prudent to you may not be prudent to someone else). This is similar, in that the FAA has a no fly zone but they don't actually publish what it is.

Catch-22 and 1984 weren't supposed to be instruction manuals.

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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Bubble of protection is 3000 feet laterally and 1000 feet vertically. From the article: “Unlike traditional Temporary Flight Restrictions, the NOTAM does not provide geographic coordinates, activation times, or public notification when the restriction is in effect near a specific location. Instead, the restricted airspace moves with DHS assets, meaning the no-fly zone can appear wherever ICE or other DHS units operat…

So the unannounced movements of the secret police in their unmarked vehicles also create a bubble around them where usually-legal activity is illegal?

That's the goal, it just isn't spelled out.

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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Not nearly well-funded enough. You get $50000 for joining ICE, you get ten bullets in the back for filming them.

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Sounds like you made your side just fine.

The "head or tails" is currently whether one thinks those ICE gunmen should be on that block, with their uniform, and with their orders.

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen the latest video and it was murder beyond any reasonable doubt. The ICE agent drew his gun and shot the man in the back at least four times while he was kneeling on the ground and being beaten and kicked by other ICE agents. That's a fact. I must assume you haven't watched the video.

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It is fact and you're wrong. He was being beaten. No doubt about it and I'm willing to die on that hill. I'd even swear this under oath. There is more than one video by the way.

I'm not going to "discuss" this any further though. The evidence is crystal-clear. That's all I have to say about it. (I'm not from the US and don't care much about your internal problems, but I have eyes.)

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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This is a useful measure to point the law as a weapon against drone operators who may be recording what’s going on by accident or on purpose. Any drone made in the last few years is going to be emitting its ID, which likely has been registered with the pilot’s name and contact information. They can then after the fact come down on that person without having to get facial recognition, grab cellphone beacons, or other…

It's trivial to build your own drone without a DroneID.

Re: FAA institutes nationwide drone no-fly zones around ICE operations

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Are you saying the FAA has a permanent and up to date list of ICE operations? Because if so, that's a public list and something that some might be very interested in for knowing when and where ICE is operating.

And if they don't, there is no basis for enforcement, so we're done.

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