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White House alters arrest photo of ICE protester, says "the memes will continue"

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Re: White House alters arrest photo of ICE protester, says "the memes will continue"

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There are people on this site who will still turn out to vote for this administration and their allies in Congress. It's wild.

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You'll really like how they're gearing up to fix the 2026 vote, then. Or just abolish it.

https://people.com/pam-bondi-full-letter-tim-walz-after-alex...

Re: White House alters arrest photo of ICE protester, says "the memes will continue"

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There are people on this site who will still turn out to vote for this administration and their allies in Congress. It's wild.

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There is a difference between not liking someone for substantive and non-substantive reasons. I have military training that is adjacent to policing because that was one of the objectives of the theater I was in.

Informed by that training I would never:

- shoot someone when they are being detained

- shoot someone simply because they have a gun

- stand next to a vehicle so as to postulate the vehicle as a weapon

When I don't like Kristi Noem it isn't because she's Kristi Noem, because she's a woman, or because she shot a puppy she didn't like. It's because her actions and policy that she defends and writes don't agree with the ethics of the training I received.

You can do this thought exercise across this administration and arrive at the same conclusions of most of the key-holding individuals.

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There's been a lot of talk on HN about generative AI and how it will be weaponized to scam people and politically for propoganda. That reality got here very quickly. Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem posted a photo of Nekima Levy Armstrong, a Minnesota civil rights attorney, being arrested at a political protest. A half hour later, the official White House X account posted an altered version in which Armstro…

Their vulgarity goes beyond tech and are unapologetic about it. They get to do it because mass media fails to call the lies. Over and over.

> mass media fails to call the lies

That can't be all it is: this and other recent, uncontroversially atrocious (when taken out of political context) actions taken by the Trump administration were very widely reported as lies/unconscionable by the vast majority of media outlets large and small.

Hell, we're even only having this discussion because Ars Technica, a publication with ten million readers, did journalism about an event. That's not huge in the grander scheme, but it's not tiny either.

There's certainly many stupid/corrupt things that news media companies should improve. I just don't think "A.P. News isn't calling $thing out" is the problem here.

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Arguably, that's the point. For post-truth politicians, the objective isn't to present a narrative as objectively factual, but to bring the entire notion of factual objectivity into question. It's not "This is the truth." Rather, it's "The truth is unknowable." If nobody knows what's true and false anyway, there's no reason to concern yourself with "facts" that disturb your preconceptions.

> White House Deputy Communications Director Kaelan Dorr defended the post after criticism of the image manipulation. > “Enforcement of the law will continue. The memes will continue. Thank you for your attention to this matter,” Dorr wrote. The banner image on Dorr's X account reads: "oMg, diD tHe wHiTE hOuSE reALLy PosT tHiS?" You're right, and I'd add that the agenda goes well beyond muddying the waters. This admi…

Its the Firehose of falsehood. Pioneered in Putin's Russia. It is extremely effective.

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Hey fellow nerds, never forget that your inventions will be turned into a weapon. We must always consider how dangerous that weapon will be. And there you go, generative AI being used by an authoritarian government to slander and defame political opponents. It's not the first time, I'm sure, and they've been using it for propaganda memes and NFT trash for a while, but this is the most blatant I've seen. It's not obviously altered, it's very believable, and it's for a minor dissident, a protest organizer. I'm really scared.

Re: White House alters arrest photo of ICE protester, says "the memes will continue"

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There's been a lot of talk on HN about generative AI and how it will be weaponized to scam people and politically for propoganda. That reality got here very quickly. Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem posted a photo of Nekima Levy Armstrong, a Minnesota civil rights attorney, being arrested at a political protest. A half hour later, the official White House X account posted an altered version in which Armstro…

There are people on this site who will still turn out to vote for this administration and their allies in Congress. It's wild.

My suspicion is that, here on HN, the number has dwindled considerably, even as the number has risen among the most famous figures in tech.

HN really should conduct a survey, like StackOverflow does. It would be fascinating.

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The voter base doesn't care. Federal agents are sent to a state against the governor's will, a man gets shot and killed while carrying a holstered pistol, and all the MAGA 2nd amendment republicans think this was a justified killing because he had a gun on him.

Their voter base - and not the rest of us. There will be a reckoning - and it may originate from the most unexpected place.

When and where from?

Re: White House alters arrest photo of ICE protester, says "the memes will continue"

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There's been a lot of talk on HN about generative AI and how it will be weaponized to scam people and politically for propoganda. That reality got here very quickly. Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem posted a photo of Nekima Levy Armstrong, a Minnesota civil rights attorney, being arrested at a political protest. A half hour later, the official White House X account posted an altered version in which Armstro…

Don't really understand how "AI" ties into this. This administration has been photoshopping and editing pictures long before AI, here's https://paleofuture.com/nofuture/2019/1/21/president-trump-p... some examples from 2019 where they used shops to make him thin.

Yes of course this could've been done in photoshop. But a convincing Photoshop effort takes someone with years of experience working for likely hours. AI can churn out this kind of image in seconds, operated entirely by someone with zero skill or experience. It lowers the bar significantly, increasing the scope and scale of the output.

For the same reason a fully automatic weapon is substantively different from a bolt action rifle, despite both being guns.

It's also a fundamentally different scenario. Photoshoot-style touchups - likely at the request of the subject himself - for pure vanity, versus doctored images of an unwilling citizen (who presumably hasn't been convicted yet and is therefore considered innocent) as propaganda

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