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Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is coming to Android

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Post by juliie »

xandrius wrote: post #113
BatteryMountain wrote: post #59

If the make sideloading high-friction, either via account-bound or apk upload or permissions from MNO/ISP, I will leave android. I have a bunch of my own apps that only I use, not released to the public, if I cannot use them, I have zero reason to stay on android. I think one of the reasons they want to lockdown the system is to prevent guys like me from locking THEM out of my home/ecosystems, as and example, I build…

Why jump to another abuser when you could seriously start looking into alternatives? Ubuntu Touch has a really active community and it's very stable, you can even emulate android apps which you might absolutely need. I don't see Apple as the obvious next step; the obvious step, when one is pissed off with abuse of power is open source, not Apple.

Can I install my banking apps? Is there a Google pay equivalent?

As much as I want open source, I really don't think it's there yet for most people.

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Post by andrekandre »

AlotOfReading wrote: post #12

Google's long term strategy with Android is baffling to me. Apple has had better mobile hardware for years. Apple has higher consumer trust. Apple has better app selection (for most people). Apple has been increasingly implementing the core features that differentiate Android devices, like USB-C and RCS. Every Android user lost to the increasing iOS market share is another customer Google has to pay exorbitant fees t…

  > And Google's strategy is to continue removing differentiating features from Android
they see apples recurring revenue and lust over it, and the correlation is the walled-garden and they want it too

personally, it makes me less enthusiastic about android as i don't need another iphone but n=1, so maybe it will work out for them....

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Post by 1023bytes »

Some manufacturers like Xiaomi already have a very annoying flow for enabling developer options and using ADB. You need to have a SIM card inserted, need to create a Xiaomi account and there's several popups with timers you have to wait through.

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Post by xattt »

patrickk wrote: post #140
AlotOfReading wrote: post #12

Google's long term strategy with Android is baffling to me. Apple has had better mobile hardware for years. Apple has higher consumer trust. Apple has better app selection (for most people). Apple has been increasingly implementing the core features that differentiate Android devices, like USB-C and RCS. Every Android user lost to the increasing iOS market share is another customer Google has to pay exorbitant fees t…

Apple only implemented USB-C due to pressure from the EU. One area Android has a clear advantage is Android TV devices verified by Google, because there is a much wider array of streaming apps of all kinds available. However google doesn’t seem to focus on this very much, and if you look for forum recommendations for google android streaming devices it’s very often the NVIDIA shield pro from 2019. Hopefully that devi…

The killer apps that gave Android an advantage on TV are now mostly available on tvOS. To me, these were VLC and RetroArch.

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Post by rvba »

AlotOfReading wrote: post #12

Google's long term strategy with Android is baffling to me. Apple has had better mobile hardware for years. Apple has higher consumer trust. Apple has better app selection (for most people). Apple has been increasingly implementing the core features that differentiate Android devices, like USB-C and RCS. Every Android user lost to the increasing iOS market share is another customer Google has to pay exorbitant fees t…

People who are reaponsible for Android all use Google phones. They dont care about android. They dont use it. They dont understand their use cases.

If you are hired by a manufacturer of say cola, you cannot drink the competition cola.

Those in google laugh when asked to show their phones - and then show iphones. In any other business they would be terminated.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

midoBB wrote: post #77
jacquesm wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why the surprise, they do the same with search, they do the same with their Google workspace (the degree to which they are pushing AI is really hurting the product). Google stopped being aware of their customer's needs a really long time ago, they are so arrogant they think the audience is now fully captive.

Google's AI in their docs suite is so bafflingly bad. I wanted their AI to automate a sheet for me and it just choked. I switched to Claude for making a sheet that I ended up hosting in my local NAS using Microsoft Excel format.

Embedded AIs always suck. It's a dead end, long-term. By its nature, AI subsumed software products, reducing them to tool calls for general-purpose AI runtime.

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Post by shakna »

Grazester wrote: post #48
vee-kay wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NewPipe (FOSS available on F-Droid) is nice alternative to ads-infested YouTube. I disabled YouTube and YouTube Music apps on my mobile, and I use NewPipe instead. You can even download YT videos or audio from YT videos using it.

So entitled. How do you expect Google to pay it's content creators that you watch if they didn't have ads?

When Google's ads do all the following, I'll consider guilt:

a) Don't throw malware in their ads.

b) Don't throw seizure-inducing flashes in their ads.

c) Allow turning off gambling in their ads.

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Post by 3836293648 »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #10

How does this relate to the announcement from a while back about introducing signatures that tie back to Google? (IE trusted developer program or whatever they're calling that horse shit.)

This is in response to all the pushback they got from that

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Post by sghiassy »

onli wrote: post #56
AlotOfReading wrote: post #12

Google's long term strategy with Android is baffling to me. Apple has had better mobile hardware for years. Apple has higher consumer trust. Apple has better app selection (for most people). Apple has been increasingly implementing the core features that differentiate Android devices, like USB-C and RCS. Every Android user lost to the increasing iOS market share is another customer Google has to pay exorbitant fees t…

I don't see any iOS advantage with the apps anymore. That was maybe true in the very beginning, during the gold rush time of the app store. But not since then. In which category are there better iOS apps? Browsers? No, strictly worse. Youtube app? No, worse. Texting? Worse or equal (Whatsapp). Podcast client? I assume worse, since there is no Antenna Pod. Social media apps? The iOS variants of those apps are afaik in…

The YouTube app on iOS is superior to the Android app for one
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