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Palantir has no place in UK public services

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Re: Palantir has no place in UK public services

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Post by jacquesm »

notpushkin wrote: post #11
linkjuice4all wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like there's a big opportunity for someone to hire a bunch of disenfranchised US devs that want to flee the country to build an EU-native cloud platform - but clearly there's enough talent on the continent already, so why hasn't this happened yet?

Because it’s not a dev problem, it’s a sales problem.

It is much more complicated than that.

(1) Europe has a fragmented market; linguistically, product wise (2) Silicon Valley is in the United States (3) The United States has a very large amount of capital to throw at companies (4) even if you managed to succeed in the EU your shares will most likely be bought out from under you if you raised capital (5) all of the above re-inforce each other over time

Once you have that kind of an advantage it is very hard to lose it.

Re: Palantir has no place in UK public services

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Post by jacquesm »

gabaix wrote: post #40
tombert wrote: post #12

The more I read about Palantir, the creepier and weirder it becomes. The CEO brags about wanting to kill all journalists with fentanyl, or brags about how their software will be used to kill people, and how readily they're willing to work for the convicted fraudster that America felt fit to give the nuclear codes. And despite this company being creepy and weird and bizarre and secretive, they are also trying to make…

Karp is a philosopher by training that has fallen into ideological blindness. He claims that he is on the right side of history. Democracies need Palantir badly. He preaches his views to his employees. No one in his flock seems to wonder what would happen if their tools were to be used against democracy.

By that kind of reasoning the Mafia is doing just great.

Not everything is about money.

Re: Palantir has no place in UK public services

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Post by bigfudge »

nailer wrote: post #28
Daishiman wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That entire website looks like Israeli sponsored propaganda.

Well Jews are from Israel so yes. What’s your point? Are you saying Zultana wasn’t at that event?

Being at an event with racists does not make you a racist. That would tar the entire Israeli parliament and anyone who currently works in the White House.

Can you point to anything Sultana has said which you think is beyond the pale? - a direct quote rather than indirect smears. As gross as it was, the grooming gangs stuff has been used by the right wing press to smear the entire immigrant population. The vast majority of abuse happens by people the child knows. I think reporting which distorts that -is- a smear, no matter how incompetent, misguided or corrupt the police response to what went on in Rotherham and elsewhere.

Re: Palantir has no place in UK public services

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Post by gyanchawdhary »

tombert wrote: post #12

The more I read about Palantir, the creepier and weirder it becomes. The CEO brags about wanting to kill all journalists with fentanyl, or brags about how their software will be used to kill people, and how readily they're willing to work for the convicted fraudster that America felt fit to give the nuclear codes. And despite this company being creepy and weird and bizarre and secretive, they are also trying to make…

This reads like someone who replaced thinking with the word “creepy” and hit paste until it felt like an opinion. If your critique is just moral panic (and I guess merch anxiety) you’re not exposing anything … and speaking of merch, their Karp “Dominate” shirt is absolutely killer

Re: Palantir has no place in UK public services

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Post by tombert »

gyanchawdhary wrote: post #49
tombert wrote: post #12

The more I read about Palantir, the creepier and weirder it becomes. The CEO brags about wanting to kill all journalists with fentanyl, or brags about how their software will be used to kill people, and how readily they're willing to work for the convicted fraudster that America felt fit to give the nuclear codes. And despite this company being creepy and weird and bizarre and secretive, they are also trying to make…

This reads like someone who replaced thinking with the word “creepy” and hit paste until it felt like an opinion. If your critique is just moral panic (and I guess merch anxiety) you’re not exposing anything … and speaking of merch, their Karp “Dominate” shirt is absolutely killer

I'm sorry, which forum do you think you're on? This isn't a fucking "publication", it's a discussion forum for a bunch of software geeks. I'm not trying to "expose" anything, I'm saying that when I read about how much crap they do, how much they work with ICE, and how deeply unlikable the CEO is, then yeah they're creepy. It really is just an "opinion", so you trying to call that out shows a lack of comprehension of the forum and honestly the English language as a whole.

Frankly, I think the fact that you're so willing to simp for a creepy billionaire and a creepy multi-billion dollar company so much as to call one of their shirts "absolutely killer" says a lot more about you than anything else.

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