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Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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From a semi-corrupt country, ie being somewhere between Africa and the developed world, I can only suggest to fellow USians courage and patience three more years. Times will come good again. A corrupt leader is very difficult to change and things seem grim because he has captured all three forms of power.

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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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> Frankly if you don't change your opinion after this, then I'm going to either assume you're a federal agent attempting to maintain the propaganda line or so absolutely psychotic that you belong well and away from proper society. I am not watching your videos just because you said this. I approached the situation with a respectful disagreeing opinion and the information available to me. Everyone else here is being u…

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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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The title calling it an “immigration crackdown” is propaganda. Texas and Florida have WAY more illegals than Minnesota [1], why are ICE not terrorizing citizens there? This federal violence and murder is not about illegals. Anyone that thinks it is is not paying attention. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1l8o8mu/percentage...

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Wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhWrol1kc44&t=64s

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Alternative angle from the lady in pink NSFW https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qlux63/altern... Edit mirror https://imgur.com/a/UTDrKz0

That's the most clear murder I've ever seen, zero question about intent or anything else. After the four agents have thrown the guy to the ground and are pinning him down you can see the fed on the left pull out his gun and shoot the defenseless man in the back, and then the others jump back and join in. This is truly unreal. Even more unreal that we know nobody will get prosecuted for this murder and we'll see anoth…

But the MAGA cult will find yet another explanation that this man magically hurt the 4 ICE agents and they all ended up in a hospital somehow, or that carrying weapons with a permit is unacceptable if you vote democrat

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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IANAA: what legal powers does the city/state have to expel ICE agents? Especially as they are operating in, at best , increasingly shady legality. I always understood that the USA is built on a delicate balance of power between the federal and state governments. But here the federal government is sending thugs who, masked or unmasked, are brazenly killing people in bizzare circumstances. And the best the state can do…

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us. For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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"It is not about punishment." I’m not sure how you can possibly make that assertion. They disarmed him and then they shot him.

> They disarmed him and then they shot him. So you're saying you can show me a video where it's clear that the gun is in an LEO's physical possession, everyone involved clearly has time to update on this information, and someone makes an evidently conscious decision to shoot him anyway, despite him clearly no longer posing a physical threat? Really? Because otherwise, it is not about punishment.

Bellingcat: https://bsky.app/profile/bellingcat.com/post/3md7banbjks2x

These investigators are not amateurs, and that’s putting it lightly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellingcat

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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ICE has regularly attacked protesters and bystanders who are simply recording, walking away and so on. Even people just driving through their neighborhood have been dragged out of their vehicles and apprehended. Citizen or otherwise doesn’t seem to matter. They aren’t professionals and operate with neither the training, nor the will to obey the law. Much of the time they seem to believe trying to bait folks into an e…

> ICE has regularly attacked protesters and bystanders who are simply recording, walking away and so on. > Even people just driving through their neighborhood have been dragged out of their vehicles and apprehended. Citizen or otherwise doesn’t seem to matter. I have seen many claims of this sort, but every single time there's been video available of the incident, it's become clear to me that nothing of the sort is g…

You're being flagged for good reason, you're not a victim here.

You refuse to watch the videos, but you're still defending the regime. Why?

I question the moral integrity of anyone who would defend this administration without all the available info.

I'm glad you're being flagged, because I've been disappointed with how folks here have been surprisingly flaccid when it comes to condemning this regime. The day that I come here and find posts like yours in the majority will be the last day I visit.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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> "The officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted. More details on the armed struggle are forthcoming." This has already been proven to be a lie thanks to the five different videos of the incident in question. They shot him after removing his legal weapon for concealed carry that he was permitted to have on his person.

Show me one of them. Show me how you think it demonstrates such a thing. Make sure it is something that starts well before the actual apprehension.

In this video you can see the agent in the gray coat and baseball cap remove the gun from Pretti's waistband: https://files.catbox.moe/sp296e.mp4

Here is a stabilized version: https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qlyj9h/i_did_...

After that agent takes the gun, the agent standing immediately to the left draws and fires into Pretti's back.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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No, its prosecution for supporting terrorists.

Some guy comes into your restaurant and eats a meal. Pays cash. Leaves. He was ICE. You're now subject to charges from the state of Minnesota? That sounds like maybe not entirely the best idea.

Some guy comes into your restaurant and eats a meal. Pays cash. Leaves. He was a sanctioned Russian. You're now subject to charges from the state of Minnesota?
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