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Re: Bye Bye Gmail

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Post by drcongo »

autoexec wrote: post #18
throw7 wrote: post #9

"My email is now being hosted by Microsoft..." Out of the pan, into the fire. my recommendation: i've been happily using fastmail for years.

Yeah I laughed when I saw he'd moved to MS, but I'd love to get some more alternatives. My ISP has already said they're going to stop providing email service at some point in the near future and I'll have to migrate at some point. In the past I'd picked up a cheap domain and self-hosted for a bit, but I'd love to not have to. Any good email providers out there that actually respect their customers and support IMAP?

I moved my personal email from Google a few years ago to https://inbox.eu which was by far the cheapest option for mailboxes for the whole family on custom domains etc. They've been very solid, I have no regrets. Their spam filtering has been a little hit and miss but other than that, solid.

Work email is moving from Google to https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite/ksuite-pro - if you're not bothered about custom domains, they also offer an excellent free tier for personal use: https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite/myksuite

Re: Bye Bye Gmail

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Post by cui »

publicdebates wrote: post #23
throw7 wrote: post #9

"My email is now being hosted by Microsoft..." Out of the pan, into the fire. my recommendation: i've been happily using fastmail for years.

Have you considered using AWS WorkMail? Very easy to set up, even helps you with MX/DKIM/DMARC/SPF if you use Route53, and only $4/month/user I believe. Granted, you won't get anywhere near Google's level of automatic credibility, but even that is relatively low for young gmail accounts.

I thought it's meant for business usage. Why are you interested in WorkMail compared to other million email products?

Re: Bye Bye Gmail

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Post by reddalo »

redfloatplane wrote: post #60

Since we're all posting about our favourite email provider, Purelymail has been one of my best discoveries of the last year or so. Ten dollars a year (though it's expected that price will go up) for as many mailboxes as you like. There's a webmail too in case you don't want your own IMAP client. I migrated every email I had (except an unmigrateable @gmail.com) to Purelymail over Christmas and I couldn't be happier.

I also love Purelymail. I love the fact that it's so cheap, but that also scares me, because I know it can't last forever.

Re: Bye Bye Gmail

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Post by noitpmeder »

latchkey wrote: post #52
noitpmeder wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But google still is presumably still training their AIs on your email content regardless if you don't use their frontend.

OPs issue was more clearly directed at "A week or two ago I was surprised to see a Google Gemini summary at the top of my email on my phone", which Mimestream doesn't include. The rest of the complaint was about a bug that happened, just today, with sorting and spam control.

OP meaning the author of the linked article? Maybe I missed the mark but I felt his main rejection of Gmail ended up being because they train their AI based on his private and or commercial data.

Re: Bye Bye Gmail

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Post by input_sh »

autoexec wrote: post #18
throw7 wrote: post #9

"My email is now being hosted by Microsoft..." Out of the pan, into the fire. my recommendation: i've been happily using fastmail for years.

Yeah I laughed when I saw he'd moved to MS, but I'd love to get some more alternatives. My ISP has already said they're going to stop providing email service at some point in the near future and I'll have to migrate at some point. In the past I'd picked up a cheap domain and self-hosted for a bit, but I'd love to not have to. Any good email providers out there that actually respect their customers and support IMAP?

Purchase a domain and point the MX record(s) to any provider you'd like. If you end up not liking that provider, you simply point the domain to a different one.

That's the main advantage of not using the provider's domain as a part of your email address (like @gmail.com, @outlook.com or whatever).

Re: Bye Bye Gmail

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Post by odie5533 »

redfloatplane wrote: post #60

Since we're all posting about our favourite email provider, Purelymail has been one of my best discoveries of the last year or so. Ten dollars a year (though it's expected that price will go up) for as many mailboxes as you like. There's a webmail too in case you don't want your own IMAP client. I migrated every email I had (except an unmigrateable @gmail.com) to Purelymail over Christmas and I couldn't be happier.

I migrated to Purelymail around the same time! It's working great for me. Unlimited domains, unlimited users, easy to setup. I'm slowly moving all my accounts over to my own domain.

Re: Bye Bye Gmail

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Post by reddalo »

CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #67

I have had gmail for decades. The best thing I did recently was turn off the smart features, add a bunch of filters, and unsubscribe from stuff I was no longer interested in. It was initially a shock to see so many emails I hadn't cared for, but an hour of curation, and it has been a delight ever since.

I did the same, turning off all AI and smart features (including those Primary/Social/Promotion tabs) made Gmail so much better.

I'm planning to move to another service provider though. I can't trust Google anymore.

Re: Bye Bye Gmail

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Post by palata »

> My email is now being hosted by Microsoft, [...] Then I guess it's off to Switzerland ( https://proton.me/about );

I am all for moving away from Gmail, but I think this is completely the wrong way to do it. Why go through the hassle of changing your @gmail for @microsoft (or whatever it is?), already thinking about moving to @proton.me in the future?

Get your own domain, and then you won't depend on the service provider anymore. Try Proton, or Fastmail, or Migadu, whatever you want. Once you own your domain, you can change every year while keeping the same email address (e.g. me@m24tom.com)!

Note: I won't accept "it's too hard to setup a domain" from someone who spent more time writing a blog post than it would take to learn how to do it.

Re: Bye Bye Gmail

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Post by tianqi »

mongol wrote: post #51

I have been looking into options too. One option that seemed attractive was called Zoho mail. Any experiences from that?

I've been using it for years and have no complaints. But some people say Zoho can even read your emails by human, I'm not sure if that's true.

Re: Bye Bye Gmail

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Post by hk1337 »

I've been using Fastmail for several years now, I remember when I first said something about it on here I got a negative response about how Fastmail doesn't do something correctly or something, and now most of the comment replies are praising Fastmail. I still like it, it's just interesting how fickle things are here.

> My email is now being hosted by Microsoft, so hopefully will be free of the outages

Ironically Microsoft just had an outage a couple of days ago.

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