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Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Regarding just the headline, at this point it's not really about immigration, this has evolved into a soft civil conflict being waged for political reasons. The two people who have been killed so far were themselves citizens and at best were political dissidents. They were not themselves subject to detainment due to immigration status.

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Bro is like, “can we please stop talking about this extra judicial politically motivated murder and please focus on the semantics of my argument?”

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Sounds like ICE's official word right now is that the guy had a gun. But the video clearly indicates that they all tackled him to the ground and were wrestling him maybe 4 vs 1, before they all shot him together. I'm not quite sure how a gun can have come out of this. Maybe the guy while struggling on the ground happened to reach in the direction of someone's gun while getting curbstomped, I dunno. What I'm most worr…

Even if they guy had a gun, it's left to see what actually transpired here. Whether the guy owned the gun, had firearm permit and even if he had a public and/or concealed gun permit.

That's already been revealed by Minnesota Police (thank goodness we at least have some degree of independent investigations going on right now).

1. Only had parking tickets on his criminal record. No other criminal activity.

2. Owned a gun with firearms permit.

3. 36 Years Old, male. EDIT: I misremembered. Its apparently 37 year old male.

Minnesota Police only have jurisdiction inside of Minnesota however. So those four+ ICE shooters just need to leave the state and they're safe. The FBI is required to pursue across state lines.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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post #144

Regarding just the headline, at this point it's not really about immigration, this has evolved into a soft civil conflict being waged for political reasons. The two people who have been killed so far were themselves citizens and at best were political dissidents. They were not themselves subject to detainment due to immigration status.

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Killing someone is the ultimate punishment. They stop existing. Are you arguing that obstructing federal law enforcement officers mean they are allowed to kill you as punishment without the legal system being involved?

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if they guy had a gun, it's left to see what actually transpired here. Whether the guy owned the gun, had firearm permit and even if he had a public and/or concealed gun permit.

That's already been revealed by Minnesota Police (thank goodness we at least have some degree of independent investigations going on right now). 1. Only had parking tickets on his criminal record. No other criminal activity. 2. Owned a gun with firearms permit. 3. 36 Years Old, male. EDIT: I misremembered. Its apparently 37 year old male. Minnesota Police only have jurisdiction inside of Minnesota however. So those f…

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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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I feel like open armed conflict between anti-fascist groups and these federal goons is inevitable at this point. When it happens it will be used as pretext for a wider more brutal occupation and will be used as extenuating circumstances to 'bend the rules' come election time. The winning move here is continued nonviolent opposition, but it only takes one spark to start a fire then who knows what happens

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