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Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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Oh no, it appears to have received the hug of death?

I am interested in this, I have been using Raspberry Pis for various projects and home servers since the original - Currently one is hosting my navidrome music server, my password manager, and several other local network servers.

I feel the upgrade each time, and then get used to it, as I suppose we tend to do. I still remember the upgrade from 1 to 2 being the most impactful to me personally though. (I think maybe because that's when game emulation became viable?)

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

#4
The article shows how performance has always increased at a somewhat continually increasing level of inconvenience. Weird connectors, SUPER demanding power requirements, new case designs every generation, new cooling required every generation, etc.

My applications have remained the same for many years my octoprint and retropie don't require more FLOPs as time goes on but I'd really enjoy a modern board that has fewer headaches. Works on any normal USB port instead of requiring specialized power supplies, doesn't brown out and reset as much, doesn't heat up as much, etc. I suspect "a pi 3, but now with fewer headaches" would sell better than "a pi 3 but even more headaches and bigger numbers that you don't want".

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

#5
you should try running Linpack on them all (you can find the results here mixed in with other machines I own) https://web.eece.maine.edu/~vweaver/group/machines.html

When I did that on Pi3 when it first came out you could crash the system because the thermal throttling wasn't fast enough (the temp sensor was on the GPU not CPU). When I reported the issue on the pi forums the answer was essentially "why would anyone ever want to do that"

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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I suppose its unintentional comedy that they picked a 1080p H264 video playback as the benchmark. Because of course the chip in the Raspberry Pi 1 was literally designed for that! The only thing it asks of you is that you make use of the fixed function blocks that take up much of its silicon space. So no wonder that utterly fails with modern software - we need to go all the way to RPi 5 to smother the problem with enough generic computing power to overcome the careless people that spearhead much of browser development.

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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post #6

I suppose its unintentional comedy that they picked a 1080p H264 video playback as the benchmark. Because of course the chip in the Raspberry Pi 1 was literally designed for that! The only thing it asks of you is that you make use of the fixed function blocks that take up much of its silicon space. So no wonder that utterly fails with modern software - we need to go all the way to RPi 5 to smother the problem with en…

Yeah.

Except it's not even fixed function blocks, it's the 12 core VideoCore IV GPU running software that does the decoding.

VideoCore is the real Raspberry Pi, the ARM block running Linux was just a subprocessor that VC controls.

Re: Raspberry Pi Drag Race: Pi 1 to Pi 5 – Performance Comparison

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post #5

you should try running Linpack on them all (you can find the results here mixed in with other machines I own) https://web.eece.maine.edu/~vweaver/group/machines.html When I did that on Pi3 when it first came out you could crash the system because the thermal throttling wasn't fast enough (the temp sensor was on the GPU not CPU). When I reported the issue on the pi forums the answer was essentially "why would anyone e…

>"why would anyone ever want to do that"

The more things change, the more things stay the same.

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