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Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by OGEnthusiast »

jeffbee wrote: post #16
arunabha wrote: post #12

I looked at the video and have no words. Why, just why?

ICE thugs have been recruited largely from white nationalist rallies and forums. Literally, not as some kind of metaphor. DHS executives post white nationalist propaganda hourly on Twitter. Stephen Miller, an out-of-the-closet Nazi, is the acting president of the United States. Their goal is to start a race war that they believe they can win by murdering 100 million Americans.

I don't think we can just blame white people for this. A lot of the ICE agents are non-white and many non-whites voted for Trump. In fact, most of the pro-immigrant people I meet are white!

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Post by mraniki »

mraniki wrote: post #60

Live feed from status coup news : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASr1zVuQlX4

Status coup & BG On The Scene are both streaming on YouTube

Status coup: https://www.youtube.com/live/ASr1zVuQlX4?si=jZzKn8DSGcIuKZ2N

BG: https://www.youtube.com/live/xYPGiIt4dDY?si=gx-kqx8jgavIsMBI

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by jimt1234 »

dragontamer wrote: post #63

Sounds like ICE's official word right now is that the guy had a gun. But the video clearly indicates that they all tackled him to the ground and were wrestling him maybe 4 vs 1, before they all shot him together. I'm not quite sure how a gun can have come out of this. Maybe the guy while struggling on the ground happened to reach in the direction of someone's gun while getting curbstomped, I dunno. What I'm most worr…

It's always been strange to me that Americans are allowed to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights...until they get killed by police. Then they should've known not to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights.

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Post by cocomath »

dragontamer wrote: post #63

Sounds like ICE's official word right now is that the guy had a gun. But the video clearly indicates that they all tackled him to the ground and were wrestling him maybe 4 vs 1, before they all shot him together. I'm not quite sure how a gun can have come out of this. Maybe the guy while struggling on the ground happened to reach in the direction of someone's gun while getting curbstomped, I dunno. What I'm most worr…

Someone captured the beginning of the shooting victim’s interaction with ICE. It certainly doesn’t look as though the person is aggressive or brandishing a weapon.

The DHS public statement that the victim was going to “do maximize damage and massacre law enforcement” is outrageous…

https://x.com/David_J_Bier/status/2015125221938770324

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by password54321 »

jimt1234 wrote: post #79
password54321 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just in case anyone thinks you are exaggerating: https://x.com/DHSgov/status/2006472108222853298

The federal government really has become nothing more than a bunch of social media influencers.

Yup, just "social media influencers". Nothing much to see here.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by toomuchtodo »

rich_sasha wrote: post #55

IANAA: what legal powers does the city/state have to expel ICE agents? Especially as they are operating in, at best , increasingly shady legality. I always understood that the USA is built on a delicate balance of power between the federal and state governments. But here the federal government is sending thugs who, masked or unmasked, are brazenly killing people in bizzare circumstances. And the best the state can do…

Make it illegal to enable any commercial transactions within the state supporting federal agents. No food sales, no fuel sales, no hotel stays, no medical care, no rental cars. Make them drag their supply chain in like the Middle East.

In state economic deplatforming.

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Post by hypeatei »

salawat wrote: post #78
rich_sasha wrote: post #55

IANAA: what legal powers does the city/state have to expel ICE agents? Especially as they are operating in, at best , increasingly shady legality. I always understood that the USA is built on a delicate balance of power between the federal and state governments. But here the federal government is sending thugs who, masked or unmasked, are brazenly killing people in bizzare circumstances. And the best the state can do…

>IANAA: what legal powers does the city/state have to expel ICE agents? Especially as they are operating in, at best, increasingly shady legality. If ICE weren't acting like brown shirts, not much. It'd be Federal tasking happening according to due process;probably after the State informed the Feds they would not delegate local LEO to their task. Now, seeing as ICE are acting like brown shirts ; things are kinda comp…

> things are kinda complicated. Technically, charges can be brought against specific agents breaking the laws of the State

Yes, and the complicated part is federal supremacy[0]. The federal government can "convert" the case against the agent into a federal one and essentially just turn a blind eye which means no justice. No doubt that this administration would protect agents executing citizens by saying it was "part of their duty" to be there and doing that.

Relevant: https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/LSB11213

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause

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Post by bdangubic »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #88

So if you exercise your second amendment right and ICE goons harass you they'll freak out that you're "armed" and execute you.

2A only gives you the right to buy the gun, not actually use it for its intended purposes

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Post by softwaredoug »

rich_sasha wrote: post #55

IANAA: what legal powers does the city/state have to expel ICE agents? Especially as they are operating in, at best , increasingly shady legality. I always understood that the USA is built on a delicate balance of power between the federal and state governments. But here the federal government is sending thugs who, masked or unmasked, are brazenly killing people in bizzare circumstances. And the best the state can do…

They can prosecute federal agents but the bar is VERY high from what I understand.
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