XHTML Club

Post by throwaway150 » Sat, Jan 24, 2026, 2:18 PM UTC

falcor84 wrote: post #10

jraph wrote: post #2

In the linked article: > you should master the HTML programming¹ language The footnote reads: > 1. This is a common debate - but for simplicity sake I'm just calling it this. It's not really a debate, HTML is a markup language [1], not a programming language: you annotate a document with its structure and its formatting. You are not really programming when you write HTML (the markup is not procedural) (and this is no…

I think that it is a debate, and it depends on the role of HTML in your system. If all you're doing is using HTML to "annotate a document with its structure and its formatting", then yes, I'll accept that it's not quite programming, but I've not seen this approach of starting with a plain non-html document and marking it up by hand done in probably over two decades. I do still occasionally see it done for marking up…

Post by jraph » Sat, Jan 24, 2026, 2:27 PM UTC

reconnecting wrote: post #11

Valid pure HTML 4.01 (1) made in 2025 counts? I don’t thing it’s about luddites as website mentioned. Many professions have tools suggesting that person have extensive experience and in terms of web development, XHTML 1.0 or old standards of HTML are such. 1. https://www.tirreno.com

Post by jraph » Sat, Jan 24, 2026, 2:34 PM UTC

reconnecting wrote: post #22

throwaway150 wrote: post #17

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It does not? HTML 4.01 is not XML. So not XHTML. What's the confusion?

Both technologies are from the same period and share same validation culture from W3.

Post by assimpleaspossi » Sat, Jan 24, 2026, 2:36 PM UTC

jraph wrote: post #20

assimpleaspossi wrote: post #14

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>>these days it’s actually HTML5. There is no HTML5. It's just a buzzword. https://html.spec.whatwg.org/dev/introduction.html#is-this-h... ?

That's a stretch. Your link says > Is this HTML5? > In short: Yes. See also [1]. That HTML5 was used in marketing doesn't make the technical term disappear. HTML5 is a bit more precise than HTML, it refers to the living standard that's currently in use, as opposed to HTML 4.01 and the previous versions of HTML. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jan 24, 2026, 2:41 PM UTC

jraph wrote: post #26

reconnecting wrote: post #24

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It is not “your HTML”, it’s HTML 4.01 from 1999, when XHTML 1.0 is from 2000. The common is the origins of validations that comes from W3 validator (1). Same badges, same limits. 1. https://validator.w3.org/

Sorry, I edited my reply in the meantime and I probably broke your citation. but what you are describing is XHTML 1.0, not XHTML in general. HTML5 has its XHTML variant too, sometimes called XHTML 5.