Tiktok became a bigger national security risk after being sold than it was before.
All these big socials are horrible brain rotting addiction machines no matter who owns them.
TikTok is now collecting more data about its users
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#23the solution to this is very obvious, but I know some folks won't cease using the product.
It's sort've cliche at this point but we got the worst of both Orwell and Huxley in that our super-invasive surveillance apparatus is also a super-addictive apparatus designed to hit all our evolutionary buttons like a slot machine.
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#24the solution to this is very obvious, but I know some folks won't cease using the product. It's sort've cliche at this point but we got the worst of both Orwell and Huxley in that our super-invasive surveillance apparatus is also a super-addictive apparatus designed to hit all our evolutionary buttons like a slot machine.
What is the solution? You imply that it is just to quit using it, but then you mention how super-addictive social media and especially TikTok is. Which it is, by design, by very smart people who very intentionally exploit every aspect of human psychology they can, for profit. I don't blame the victims of social media, I blame the architects of it. To me it's clear that social media does more harm than good, and is only useful to generate ad revenue, which to me is also clearly more harm than good, and should all be nuked from orbit.
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#25Tiktok became a bigger national security risk after being sold than it was before.
All Americans are probably better off using Chinese apps that the Chinese government uses to snoop on them and Chinese are better off using American apps that the American govt uses to snoop on them than the opposite. The impact the Chinese government can have on an individual American is minor compared to the US govt and the same goes for the American and Chinese govts on the average Chinese person.
...Highly disagree. China can (and has) manipulate the hearts and minds of the American public—skewing their biases in a way that creates internal chaos and dissent, disrupting institutional order, and sewing distrust of thy neighbor. They've been doing this for at least a decade now, and have played a silent hand in reshaping American politics. If (when) a conflict arises, trust that they will use this tool to manipulate the electorate in a way that benefits them in a zero sum way.
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#26Tiktok became a bigger national security risk after being sold than it was before.
All Americans are probably better off using Chinese apps that the Chinese government uses to snoop on them and Chinese are better off using American apps that the American govt uses to snoop on them than the opposite. The impact the Chinese government can have on an individual American is minor compared to the US govt and the same goes for the American and Chinese govts on the average Chinese person.
Yep, and they won't work with each other, and thus provides a modicum of data safety due to opposing governments.
The real challenge to this is that most Chinese apps aren't in English.
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#27the solution to this is very obvious, but I know some folks won't cease using the product. It's sort've cliche at this point but we got the worst of both Orwell and Huxley in that our super-invasive surveillance apparatus is also a super-addictive apparatus designed to hit all our evolutionary buttons like a slot machine.
What is the solution? You imply that it is just to quit using it, but then you mention how super-addictive social media and especially TikTok is. Which it is, by design, by very smart people who very intentionally exploit every aspect of human psychology they can, for profit. I don't blame the victims of social media, I blame the architects of it. To me it's clear that social media does more harm than good, and is on…
Just use another platform if you can't quit cold-turkey.
But yeah, the solution is to not let them collect data about you.
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#28Social Media is evil. Don't participate.
Hacker News is Social Media
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#29I played with TikTok for a week or so. Every time I opened it, it was suggesting feeds featuring clearly mentally impaired people with large audiences throwing money at them for saying their name. It felt like a very concerted effort to dumb down the American population. You wouldn’t listen to these people for 10 seconds out in public. The fetal alcohol syndrome phenotype was widespread. The entire experience was disturbing, to be honest.
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#30Remember when part of the argument to force a TikTok sale was protecting American's private data? Honestly, if I had to hand my personal data over to someone, I much rather give it to the nebulous "China" that people always fearmonger about than an American billionaire aligned with the current administration because the latter is much more likely to have avenues to use that data against me.
„Hey, while we have the data - why not pipe it directly to ICE? Palantir might use it as well.“ All for the sake of "security & safety", I‘d assume.
I don’t know if you’re joking, but that’s pretty clearly exactly what they’re going to do. Take a look at the new terms of service. They released this morning, this whole app has just been weaponized against political and dissidents.