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Re: Proof of Corn

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Post by bluGill »

knowitnone3 wrote: post #100
bluGill wrote: post #25

Polk County Iowa is where Des Moines is - the largest city in Iowa. (I live the next county over, but I bike to Polk county all the time) This is not a good location to run this because the farm land is owned by farmer/investors or farmer/developers - either way everybody knows the farm will become a suburb in the next 20 years and has priced accordingly (and if the timeline is is less than 5 years they have switched…

what is Bill Gates wanting to do with Iowa farm land?

Bill gates is one of the largest farmland owners in the world (or at least was - I last checked about 10 years ago...) He hires people to work on his farm, and managers to manage it. Food is the most important thing for modern society and the reports I have suggest he is trying to raise food in the most sustainable fashion possible (organic is often not sustainable)

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Post by snowmobile »

ks2048 wrote: post #120

"Every decision will be logged. Every API call documented." ... So, where are the exact logs of the prompts and responses to Claude? Under "/log" I do not see this.

Remember the website is entirely AI-built; it's not surprising it's promising a bunch of stuff it's not actually delivering.

Re: Proof of Corn

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Post by jackmarshl0w »

I find it intresting if the AI can Produce real Corn on other planet. If this work, i think when AI is getting resource of other planet soil, then it going to be a great help for Humanity

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Post by drhodes »

Windchaser wrote: post #113
formerly_proven wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's extremely funny to me but this is basically the literal premise of season two of Person of Interest. Yeah d'uh it's just a computer how would it actually do anything ? Well it just goes ahead and tells people to do stuff and wires them money. Easy.

Though a computer could also just control robots that actually plant, weed, water, and harvest the corn. That's a pretty big difference from just 'coordinating' the work. An AI that can also plant corn itself (via robots it controls) is much more impressive to me than an AI just send emails.

Yes, absolutely. And further still, handle the assembly and manufacturing up the supply chain; like factorio.

Re: Proof of Corn

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Post by ikidd »

As a full-on farmer, the idea of Claude making the decisions on our farm of several thousand acres gives me the willies. I program with Claude and I don't trust it to write a test script without vetting it thoroughly and fixing a couple things before running it.

Betting millions of dollars in capital on it's decision making process for something it wasn't even designed for and is way more complicated than even I believed coming from a software background into farming is patently ludicrous.

And 5 acres is a garden. I doubt he'll even find a plot to rent at that size, especially this close to seeding in that area.

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Post by 9rx »

kokanee wrote: post #72
nonethewiser wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) You are right and its impressive if he can use AI to bootstrap becoming a farmer 2) Regardless, I think it proves a vastly understated feature of AI: It makes people confident. The AI may be truly informative, or it may hallucinate, or it may simply give mundane, basic advice. Probably all 3 at times. But the fact that it's there ready to assert things without hesitation gives people so much more confidence to act…

I started to write a logical rebuttal, but forget it. This is just so dumb. A guy is paying farmers to farm for him, and using a chatbot to Google everything he doesn't know about farming along the way. You're all brainwashed.

> A guy is paying farmers to farm for him

Pedantically, that's what a farmer does. The workers are known as farmhands.

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Post by cyanydeez »

ppchain wrote: post #22

The point they seem to be making is that AI can "orchestrate" the real world even if it can't interact physically. I can definitely believe that in 2026 someone at their computer with access to money can send the right emails and make the right bank transfers to get real people to grow corn for you. However even by that metric I don't see how Claude is doing that. Seth is the one researching the suppliers "with the h…

Isnt this boiled down to a cpmination of Xenos paradox and the halting problem. Every step seems to halve the problem state but each new state requires a question: should I halt? (Is the problem solved).

Id say the only acceptable proof is one prompt context. But thats godels numbering Xenos paradox of a halting problem.

Do people think prompting is not adding insignificant intelligencw.

Re: Proof of Corn

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Post by smaudet »

bayindirh wrote: post #112
santadays wrote: post #86

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> I can definitely believe that in 2026 someone at their computer with access to money can send the right emails and make the right bank transfers to get real people to grow corn for you. I think this is the new turing test. Once it's been passed we will have AGI and all the Sam Altmans of the world will be proven correct. (This isn't a perfect test obviously, but neither was the turing test) If it fails to pass we w…

Researchers love to reduce everything into formulae, and believe that when they have the right set of formulae, they can simulate something as-is. Hint: It doesn't work that way. Another hint: I'm a researcher. Yes, we have found a great way to compress and remix the information we scrape from the internet, and even with some randomness, looks like we can emit the right set of tokens which makes sense, or search the…

> There's so much tacit knowledge and implicit computation coming from experience, emotions, sensory inputs and from our own internal noise.

The premise of the article is stupid, though...yes, they aren't us.

A human might grow corn, or decide it should be grown. But the AI doesn't need corn, it won't grown corn, and it doesn't need any of the other things.

This is why, they are not useful to us.

Put it in science fiction terms. You can create a monster, and it can have super powers, _but that does not make it useful to us_. The extremely hungry monster will eat everything it sees, but it won't make anyone's life better.

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Post by cubano »

nonethewiser wrote: post #61
tekno45 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

trying. until you can eat it, you're just fucking around.

Thats not the point of the original commenter. The point of the original commenter is that he expects Claude can inform him well enough to be a farm manager and its not impressive since Seth is the primary agent. I think it is impressive if it works. Like I mentioned in a sibling comment I think it already definitely proves something LLMs have accomplished though, and that is giving people tremendous confidence to tr…

> I think it is impressive if it works.

It only works if you tell Claude..."grow me some fucking corn profitably and have it ready in 9 months" and it does it.

If it's being used as manager to simply flesh out the daily commands that someone is telling it, well then that isn't "working" thats just a new level of what we already have with APIs and crap.

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