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Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee

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Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee

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Post by thefourthchime »

nxtfari wrote: post #18

My guess is Tesla is desperately in need of Q1 revenue and they want people to scarcity buy FSD lifetime @ $8K. Otherwise the strategy doesn’t make any sense. They’re saying FSD and basic Autopilot will go behind subscription and that subscription prices are expected to go up. Basically laying out that they’re planning to lock you into a subscription and then price gouge. It’s so transparent that I think the point is…

Tesla is going to stop selling FSD outright on Feb 14th. It will be subscription only.

Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee

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Post by rootusrootus »

dawnerd wrote: post #7
coolspot wrote: post #4

$99/mo is for FSD, not just lane keeping. The article doesn’t explain what happens to simple lane leeping. Surely it should be free like in any other car (like my Volvo).

Lane keep is autopilot which is going away (for new cars). FSD doesn't have basic lane keep. The real question will be what happens to "legacy" cars with autopilot.

> The real question will be what happens to "legacy" cars with autopilot.

Tesla cannot take anything away that was on the Monroney sticker. This includes AP.

Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee

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Post by johnneville »

loourr wrote: post #10
dawnerd wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lane keep is autopilot which is going away (for new cars). FSD doesn't have basic lane keep. The real question will be what happens to "legacy" cars with autopilot.

Lane keeping is a default feature for free on all tesla's and this article doesn't say it's going away.

I don't see this mentioned in the configurator for a new model 3 on the tesla site right now. Under "Driver Assistance" it describes "Traffic-aware cruise control" only. Under "Active Safety" it includes "Lane Departure Avoidance" which is separate from the "Autosteer" feature described under the "Autopilot" section. It's possible they will choose to fold autosteer into the lane departure avoidance but there's been no announcement of that. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_il/GUID-ADA05DF...

Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee

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Post by hermanzegerman »

greenpresident wrote: post #28
wing-_-nuts wrote: post #22

These sort of shenanigans for even basic lanekeeping makes a very strong case for more open source solutions like comma

Pressing the lane assistant button on a Mercedes steering wheel and getting a “you’ll need to activate your subscription first” message really drove up my blood pressure.

You know you can just buy it?

Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee

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Post by hermanzegerman »

loourr wrote: post #10
dawnerd wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lane keep is autopilot which is going away (for new cars). FSD doesn't have basic lane keep. The real question will be what happens to "legacy" cars with autopilot.

Lane keeping is a default feature for free on all tesla's and this article doesn't say it's going away.

It does

Under the new 2026 pricing structure, Autosteer has been removed. *New vehicles will now only ship with Traffic-Aware Cruise Control*. Buyers who want the vehicle to steer itself on highways must now pay for the software that was once standard.

https://electrek.co/2026/01/23/tesla-cuts-standard-autopilot...

Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee

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Post by rootusrootus »

tokyobreakfast wrote: post #19
siliconc0w wrote: post #16

Article is unclear but if this is saying you can't even get basic ADAS w/out $99/mo that is a pretty big deal, especially if it's applied to existing cars. Basic stay-in-line and start/stop following in traffic has become pretty standard for almost a decade at this point and paywalling it now would be outrageous. I have a 2017 car that does this.

Basic ADAS is government-mandated. Even shitbox Toyotas with traditional ignition keys have it for free.

Do you have a source for that? I'm not aware of any regulation requiring ADAS. Even automatic emergency breaking is not yet required for a few more years.
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