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"The problem is that Docker the technology became so successful that Docker the company struggled to monetize it. When your core product becomes commoditized and open source, you need to find new ways to add value." No, everything was already open source, other had done it before too, they just made it in a way a lot of "normal" users could start with it, then they waited too long and others created better/their own…
We got an amazing durable essential piece of software from someone investing billions of dollars.
Now, the fact that they didn't get their money back, well, who cares? Not me, it wasn't my money.
Sucks for them, maybe -- but that's far better than enshittification for everyone.
I just want to disable "Ask Gordon" in the sidebar. I don't want to see it. My brain works in weird ways. Whenever I see a name for the first time I attach that person to it. Gordon is the character from Half Life. Docker a piece of software. Don't anthropomorphize it.
Gordon was the office pet tortoise if I recall, and might still be around given they may live a very long time. Thus it became the default user in parts of their software. =3
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Due to the usual “mid size software company not micromanaging the developers” standard You didn't have a device management system or similar product managing software installs (SCCM in Windows land)? That's table stakes for any admin.
Amazon has device management but still allows developers to install software via `brew`. Windows is slightly more locked down in that user's don't have admin by default, but there's a very low bar to clear to get it temporarily.
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It's hilarious. Your 'solution' to use docker without root is to make some system changes as root and then use/build docker LOL.
Uhm no. Podman is a different product that is pretty much a drop-in replacement for Docker but lets you run as non-root. You have to be root to set it up, but after that you don't need any special privileges. With Docker the only option is to basically give everyone root access. It's true that it requires root for some setup though. Unclear if op was complaining about that.
"The problem is that Docker the technology became so successful that Docker the company struggled to monetize it. When your core product becomes commoditized and open source, you need to find new ways to add value." No, everything was already open source, other had done it before too, they just made it in a way a lot of "normal" users could start with it, then they waited too long and others created better/their own…
It didn't help them that they rejected the traditionally successful ways of monetizing open source software. Which is, selling support contracts to large corporate users. Corporate customers didn't like the security implications of the Docker daemon running as root, they wanted better sandboxing and management (cgroups v2), wanted to be able to run their own internal registries, didn't want to have docker trying to f…
I did large downloads all the time, I used to download 25GB games for my game consoles for instance. I just had to use schedule them and use tools that could resume downloads.
If I'd had a local docker hub I might have used docker but because I didn't it was dead to me.
One thing that really hurt them from my PoV was how they acted when they changed their licensing structure with respect to revenue generating companies. I’m fine with the idea that licensing Docker and Docker Desktop is a good thing to do. However, I think they just made people distrust their motives with their approached to this. At two places I worked their reps reached out to essentially ensnare the company in a s…
Due to the usual “mid size software company not micromanaging the developers” standard You didn't have a device management system or similar product managing software installs (SCCM in Windows land)? That's table stakes for any admin.
At one place there wasn’t and at the other it wasn’t well managed. I agree from a compliance point of view and have advocated for this but I was not on the IT/Ops side of the business so I could only use soft power.
The CTO at the first company had a “zero hindrances for the developers” mindset and the latter was reeling from being the merger of five different companies. The latter did a better job of trying to say the least but wasn’t great about it. Outcome was the same none the less.
If somebody missed it, apple/container is a good replacement for Docker for Mac on macOS. I have been using it for the last 6 months, there are issues, but also team is actively developing it. https://github.com/apple/container
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It didn't help them that they rejected the traditionally successful ways of monetizing open source software. Which is, selling support contracts to large corporate users. Corporate customers didn't like the security implications of the Docker daemon running as root, they wanted better sandboxing and management (cgroups v2), wanted to be able to run their own internal registries, didn't want to have docker trying to f…
yes; its really notable that corporates and other support companies (e.g. redhat) don't want to start down the path of NIH, and will go to significant efforts to avoid it. However, once they have done it, it is very hard to make them come back.