If somebody missed it, apple/container is a good replacement for Docker for Mac on macOS. I have been using it for the last 6 months, there are issues, but also team is actively developing it.
What has Docker become?
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Re: What has Docker become?
#52Reminds me a bit of stuff like curl - the importance of it and the monetization opportunities are out of sync. Tricky
Re: What has Docker become?
#53Honestly I reach for podman or `nix develop` any chance I get. What is the edge that docker provides these days?
How do you manage your containers in podman declaratively?
I tried to substitute docker-compose with Podman and Quadlets on a test server the other day, but was shocked how badly described the overall concept is. Most materials I found glimpsed through ability to run it as root/user and how different that is in configuration, and repeated the same 4-6 commands mantra.
Spent a few hours on it and just... failed to run a single container. systemctl never noticed my qualdet definitions, even if podman considered my .container file registered.
A bit.. frustrating, I expected smoother sailing.
Re: What has Docker become?
#54Honestly I reach for podman or `nix develop` any chance I get. What is the edge that docker provides these days?
What is the edge that docker provides these days? Enterprise support and Docker Desktop makes it nearly seamless to get set up using containers. I've tried Rancher/podman/buildah and the experience introduced too much friction for me without being on a Linux system.
> [...] without being on a Linux system.
I'll add that needing to be on the "right" Linux system is another strike against Podman. Last I checked if I wasn't on a RedHat derivative I was in the wilderness.
Re: What has Docker become?
#55What I hate about docker and other such solutions is that I cannot install it as nonroot user, and that it keeps images between users in a database. I want to move things around using mv and cp, and not have another management layer that I need to be aware of and that can end up in an inconsistent state.
https://github.com/containers/podman/blob/main/docs/tutorial...
It's hilarious. Your 'solution' to use docker without root is to make some system changes as root and then use/build docker LOL.
Re: What has Docker become?
#56> Docker’s journey reads like a startup trying to find product-market fit, except Docker already had product-market fit Strongly disagree. The core Docker technology was an excellent product and as the article says, had a massive impact on the industry. But they never found a market for that technology at any price point that wasn't ~free, so they didn't have PMF. That technology also only took off in the way it did…
The entire technology is a wrapper on setns().
Re: What has Docker become?
#57Reminds me a bit of stuff like curl - the importance of it and the monetization opportunities are out of sync. Tricky
I’m currently building a micro transaction version of `ls`
Re: What has Docker become?
#58Honestly I reach for podman or `nix develop` any chance I get. What is the edge that docker provides these days?
Docker, or rather containerd, still has better plugin ecosystem around it. Unregistry https://github.com/psviderski/unregistry, Nydus https://github.com/dragonflyoss/nydus, all the different "snapshotters" (storage formats), or the utils for sharing NVIDIA GPUs with containers, etc.
The gap with Podman is closing though, and most users don't need any of these in the first place.
Re: What has Docker become?
#59Re: What has Docker become?
#60Honestly I reach for podman or `nix develop` any chance I get. What is the edge that docker provides these days?
How do you manage your containers in podman declaratively? I tried to substitute docker-compose with Podman and Quadlets on a test server the other day, but was shocked how badly described the overall concept is. Most materials I found glimpsed through ability to run it as root/user and how different that is in configuration, and repeated the same 4-6 commands mantra. Spent a few hours on it and just... failed to run…
The podman kube support? It provides similar functionality as docker-compose, using a yaml file which is a subset of the Kubernetes pod definition syntax.
Then you can just create a few line systemd unit definition, and it integrates as a normal systemd unit, with logs visible via journalctl etc.