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Satya Nadella: "We need to find something useful for AI"

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Re: Satya Nadella: "We need to find something useful for AI"

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After increasing the prices of RAM, GPUs and flash memory for the entire world, energy cost is next. Thanks AI!

But wait! There is more! Copilot Notepad. Copilot MS Paint. Copilot Shoes. Copilot Ice Cream.

MSPaint already added AI. I had to switch to Paint.net for doing small edits.

Re: Satya Nadella: "We need to find something useful for AI"

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It's my opinion that AI can help a lot when it is supporting you when expanding beyond your core competency. For instance, as a SWE, I get just a little help with boilerplate from the AI. I could usually have done it better, but sometimes the ask is both simple enough and boring enough that the code from the LLM actually produces something very close to what I would produce. On the other side of the coin, a non-techn…

Respectfully, your positive view of an LLM writing marketing copy is akin to a marketer thinking an LLM codes really well.

I would push back on that because I have some experience writing marketing copy. It's just not my primary competency.

If the proverbial marketer that you were referring to had some experience with coding, I dont see why they wouldnt be able to review the output and see any obvious flaws.

My whole point is that LLMs are of limited use when you are already an expert or when you know nothing about the subject. However, they really seem to help elevate beginner/intermediate level tangential skillsets.

Obviously everything is still evolving and your results may vary.

Re: Satya Nadella: "We need to find something useful for AI"

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I think hallucination is grossly overstated as a problem at this point, most models will actively search the web and reason about the results. You're much more likely to get the incorrect solution browsing stack overflow than you are asking AI.

Gemini hallucinated a method name in a rust crate then spent several minutes googling the method name + 'rust example' trying to find documentation about the method it made up. Unsurprisingly it didn't find any, and then it just gave up and commented out the entire function and called it done.

Comparing the free tier of Gemini to the latest premium coding models will give you drastically different results.

Re: Satya Nadella: "We need to find something useful for AI"

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We haven’t found anything useful for crypto, which wastes enormous amounts of electricity on purpose, yet unfortunately it still exists.

It's useful for bribing politicians, milking money from saps, and a bunch of other stuff!

Re: Satya Nadella: "We need to find something useful for AI"

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> For example, using ChatGPT to get a response to a random question like "How do I do XYZ" is much more convenient than googling it, but the time savings are often not that relevant for your overall productivity. Before LLMs you were usually already able to find the information quickly and even a 10x speed up does not really have too much of an impact on your overall productivity, because the time it took was already…

Why not have the LLM generate the library?

The value of a library is not in the code it’s in the operations. It’s been curated and tested by multiple people in multiple environments. One of the ways to code at a high level is to delegate the cognitive load.

If you really can one shot it and it’s simple(left-pad). Great. But most things aren’t my that simple, the third time you have to think about it, it’s probably a net loss.

Re: Satya Nadella: "We need to find something useful for AI"

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This will sound pedantic but I'll explain why it matters: the exact wording is "We need to do something useful with AI", because the current (editorialized) submission title (of an already slanted article) makes it sound like people don't know what to do with AI. We already know many useful things to do; there are already 10,000 startups (9789 out of YC alone, 4423 of which are coding-related) doing various ostensibl…

The problem for him and other leaders in the AI ecosystem is that they ran ahead of themselves to overpromise and that has muddied the water from a consumer perspective. That ultimately increases the risk that we throw the baby out with the bathwater as people get sour with it. I have no doubt LLM will be a feature of society going forward, but they have been reckless with the way they've gone about messaging it

It’s not just reckless it’s misanthropic. He’s rowing upstream against a messaging strategy of “fuck y’all!” Jobs? Fuck y’all!

Re: Satya Nadella: "We need to find something useful for AI"

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> For example, using ChatGPT to get a response to a random question like "How do I do XYZ" is much more convenient than googling it More convenient than traditional search? Maybe. Quicker than traditional search? Maybe not. Asking random questions is exactly where you run into time-wasting hallucinations since the models don't seem to be very good at deciding when to use a search tool and when just to rely on their t…

> I asked Gemini (generally considered one of the smartest models Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I asked ChatGPT and Claude your XFCE question, and they both gave better answers than Gemini did (imo). Why would you blindly believe what someone else tells you over what you observe with your own eyes?

I'm curious what was your Claude prompt? I used to use Claude a lot more, but the free tier usage limits are very low if you use it for coding.

Re: Satya Nadella: "We need to find something useful for AI"

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We haven’t found anything useful for crypto, which wastes enormous amounts of electricity on purpose, yet unfortunately it still exists.

It's useful for bribing politicians, milking money from saps, and a bunch of other stuff!

Don't forget buying heroin from a dodgy .onion link!

Re: Satya Nadella: "We need to find something useful for AI"

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Yes, but I think that is the exact attitude Satya's advising against: Where many leaders are looking inward to see how they can optimize their own businesses, they should be looking outward to see how they can improve the world.

LOL! Does anyone think CEO's of major corporations are trying to improve the world? Honestly that's funny. Sorry if you really are this earnest. I wish you the best and hope you can maintain your outlook despite how disconnected from reality.

“LOL! Does anyone think CEO's of major corporations are trying to improve the world?”

I think that there are some leaders who think about building a business in terms of providing value or an exchange of goods.

I think there’s a fundamental difference to society between a ceo that abstracts their role as building a product people value, and one that sees their role as hacking the stock price. The first still may do terrible things, but I think a lot of modern problems in society stem from the fact that deregulation changed the incentives from (1) to (2), but I’m pro any conversation that tries to move us back towards 1

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