What has Docker become?
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What has Docker become?
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#2 For a while, Docker seemed to focus on developer experience.
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#3> Docker created a standard so successful that it became infrastructure, and infrastructure is hard to monetize
Open infrastructure is hard to monetize. Old school robotics players have a playbook for this. You may or may not agree DBs are infra but Oracle has done well by capitalistic standards.
The reality is in our economy exploitation is a basic requirement. Nothing says a company providing porcelain for Linux kernel capabilities has a right to exist. What has turned into OCI is great. Docker desktop lost on Mac to Orb stack and friends (but I guess they have caught back up?) the article does make it clear they have tried hard to find a place to leverage rent and it probably is making enough for a 10-100 person company to be very comfortable but 500-1000 seems very over grown at this point.
Really should not have given up on Swarm just to come back to it. Kubernetes is over kill for so many people using it for a convenient deployment story.
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#4For a while, Docker seemed to focus on developer experience. ahh yes, docker desktop, where the error messages are "something went wrong", and the primary debugging step is to wipe it, uninstall, and reinstall.
It is honestly incredible that such an important part of the Windows dev process is nearly unusable. It is easily the most fickle and opaque bit of software that I am required to depend upon.
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#5> Docker created a standard so successful that it became infrastructure, and infrastructure is hard to monetize Open infrastructure is hard to monetize. Old school robotics players have a playbook for this. You may or may not agree DBs are infra but Oracle has done well by capitalistic standards. The reality is in our economy exploitation is a basic requirement. Nothing says a company providing porcelain for Linux ke…
> Open infrastructure is hard to monetize.
But not impossible. Terraform seems to have paid its creator quite well.
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#6> Docker created a standard so successful that it became infrastructure, and infrastructure is hard to monetize Open infrastructure is hard to monetize. Old school robotics players have a playbook for this. You may or may not agree DBs are infra but Oracle has done well by capitalistic standards. The reality is in our economy exploitation is a basic requirement. Nothing says a company providing porcelain for Linux ke…
The "Fair Source" [1] and "Fair Code" [2] licenses are sustainable and user-friendly.
Imagine if Docker the company could charge AWS and Google for their use of their technology.
Imagine if Redis, Elastic, and so many other technologies could.
Modern database companies will typically dual license their work so they don't have their lunch eaten. I've done it for some of my own work [3].
You want your customers to have freedom, but you don't want massive companies coming in and ripping you off. You'd also like to provide a "easy path" for payments that sustain the engineering, but not require your users to be bound to you.
"OSI-approved" Open Source is an industry co-opt of labor. Amazon and Google benefit immensely with an ecosystem of things they can offer, but they in turn give you zero of the AWS/GCP code base.
Hyperscalers are miles of crust around an open source interior. They charge and make millions off of the free labor of open source.
I think we need a new type of license that requires that the companies using the license must make their entire operational codebases available.
[3] https://github.com/storytold/artcraft/blob/main/LICENSE.md
Re: What has Docker become?
#7For a while, Docker seemed to focus on developer experience. ahh yes, docker desktop, where the error messages are "something went wrong", and the primary debugging step is to wipe it, uninstall, and reinstall.
It is honestly incredible that such an important part of the Windows dev process is nearly unusable. It is easily the most fickle and opaque bit of software that I am required to depend upon.
Yep. I used to have a ton of problems with Docker in Windows.
It has been a year without problems since I enabled WSL2 engine for Docker.
Honestly they should make the WSL2 Docker engine mandatory because otherwise things barely work.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is honestly incredible that such an important part of the Windows dev process is nearly unusable. It is easily the most fickle and opaque bit of software that I am required to depend upon.
Yep. I used to have a ton of problems with Docker in Windows. It has been a year without problems since I enabled WSL2 engine for Docker. Honestly they should make the WSL2 Docker engine mandatory because otherwise things barely work.
at work, i opted for remote development workspace because of this problem. Windows & Docker ain't meant to be together :(
Re: What has Docker become?
#9> Docker created a standard so successful that it became infrastructure, and infrastructure is hard to monetize Open infrastructure is hard to monetize. Old school robotics players have a playbook for this. You may or may not agree DBs are infra but Oracle has done well by capitalistic standards. The reality is in our economy exploitation is a basic requirement. Nothing says a company providing porcelain for Linux ke…
> Open infrastructure is hard to monetize. But not impossible. Terraform seems to have paid its creator quite well.
I think Hashicorp got out just in time. They are declining in recent years.
Re: What has Docker become?
#10> Docker created a standard so successful that it became infrastructure, and infrastructure is hard to monetize Open infrastructure is hard to monetize. Old school robotics players have a playbook for this. You may or may not agree DBs are infra but Oracle has done well by capitalistic standards. The reality is in our economy exploitation is a basic requirement. Nothing says a company providing porcelain for Linux ke…
The "Fair Source" [1] and "Fair Code" [2] licenses are sustainable and user-friendly. Imagine if Docker the company could charge AWS and Google for their use of their technology. Imagine if Redis, Elastic, and so many other technologies could. Modern database companies will typically dual license their work so they don't have their lunch eaten. I've done it for some of my own work [3]. You want your customers to have…
Charging companies for software is as old as computers itself. We don't have to imagine.