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Proton spam and the AI consent problem

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Re: Proton spam and the AI consent problem

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> Has anyone else noticed that the AI industry can’t take “no” for an answer? AI is being force-fed into every corner of tech. It’s unfathomable to them that some of us aren’t interested. The entire AI industry is built upon a common principle of non-consent.

I can't help but see the spam as more circumstantial evidence of a bubble, where top-down "pump those numbers" priorities overrides regular process.

Re: Proton spam and the AI consent problem

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This is not an AI problem, it's an "data privacy + lack of consequences problem". It happens everywhere. I mean, have you ever tried making an airline company to stop sending their shitty miles newsletters?

Only way to stop is to start fining these companies.

Re: Proton spam and the AI consent problem

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Implementing this sort of “functionality” is always the department of a junior team, so that the obvious sorts of questions about defaults can be answered with “a junior dev was responsible for the implementation and messed up”, even though the mess up was by design.

Re: Proton spam and the AI consent problem

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Lumo will likely be the thing that moves me away from Proton. I've been pretty happy with it, ever since they made the photo's app actually have shareable libraries it's been just as good as any other Google Mail/Photos/Files thing I've used. The password manager plugin for firefox isn't as good as bitwarden, but when you're paying it's part of the package so... If I have to encrypt my files before I use the drive, and they continue to build their AI spy into everything, though, then what is the point really?

Anyway, it is sort of hilarious to report Proton as spam to Proton.

Re: Proton spam and the AI consent problem

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I have a Proton mailbox I specifically keep around to serve as a honeypot, for tracking when one of the many annoying little services will inevitably mishandle the contact address I hand them.

Over the years, the only spam I ever received there was from Proton. Quite the way to recalibrate my expectations, eh?

Re: Proton spam and the AI consent problem

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post #3

This is not an AI problem, it's an "data privacy + lack of consequences problem". It happens everywhere. I mean, have you ever tried making an airline company to stop sending their shitty miles newsletters? Only way to stop is to start fining these companies.

Not sure where you live, but inside the EU / UK this is rarely a problem because the companies do get fined. If youre having problems like this report them to your relevant authority. But as another commentor noted, AI bubble makes paying spam fines more worthwhile than bubble popping.
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