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Capital One to acquire Brex for $5.15B

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Re: Capital One to acquire Brex for $5.15B

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Brex has been around for a long time, so employees will have been issued stock options with vastly different exercise prices. Early employees' options will have value, but more recent options are likely underwater.

I strongly suspect they shifted to RSUs at those valuations.

It seems unlikely that regular employees would be issued RSUs. Tax is due at vest, and you can't liquidate to fund the tax bill.

Re: Capital One to acquire Brex for $5.15B

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They refused my business because I didn't have SV VC money Chase got it instead, but they are losing it next month because of their shenanigans and greed Wish crypto hadn't been co-opted by the same people and worse

Crypto is just extension of the banking system and VC powered money extraction schemes. Bitcoin is the only notably different thing in my opinion.

VCs are pretty good at extracting money from Gulf state oil funds (sometimes via Softbank as the intermediary) and subsidising below-cost services for customers like office space sharing or ride hailing.

Of course, the VCs take a cut, but overall the redistribution seems net positive to me.

Re: Capital One to acquire Brex for $5.15B

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> Chase got it instead, but they are losing it next month because of their shenanigans and greed Well, on a related note: https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-bont... "Capital One marketed its 360 Savings accounts as “high interest” accounts with “one of the nation’s best savings rates”...However, while interest rates rose nationwide...Capital One kept the interest rates for its 360 Savings account…

America's banks enjoy pulling a bait and switch on HYSAs: They will create new account types with better rates, while they let their old ones become uncompetitive. Citi has pulled this too. Unless you really think you might need the money immediately, chances are that keeping your money in a brokerage account and using a money market fund (say, VMFXX or something like that) will lead to less headaches with rate manip…

I highly recommend the Fidelity CMA (Cash Management Account), it behaves mostly like a checking account but it autosweeps into SPAXX so you get the best of both worlds - your money is instantly accessible but you get the earnings of a money market account. I no longer bother with a HYSA.

It's not a bank account so you will still need a backup checking account if you need Zelle or similar, and it has no way to deposit cash - but the CMA has direct deposit, ACH transfer, debit card access, and check writing, so 95% of the time it does all you need.

Re: Capital One to acquire Brex for $5.15B

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(Frame of reference: US only) That's a shame, given 18-25 is just the age where a credit card skimmer or online card fraud causing a big fraudulent withdrawal from your checking account, and weeks of waiting to get it back, could be devastating. This has happened to people in my family (likely from gas stations) but we only use credit cards except to pull cash from ATMs, so we only suffer a temporary dip in our avail…

I wish I could scream this from the rooftops. People should keep their debit cards locked/frozen, and only use them to get money from ATMs when needed. All other spending should go onto credit cards, for numerous reasons that have been bought up throughout this thread.

Most banks/CU will issue you ATM only card that cannot be used a credit card. Might require some wrangling with the bank.

Re: Capital One to acquire Brex for $5.15B

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post #163

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America's banks enjoy pulling a bait and switch on HYSAs: They will create new account types with better rates, while they let their old ones become uncompetitive. Citi has pulled this too. Unless you really think you might need the money immediately, chances are that keeping your money in a brokerage account and using a money market fund (say, VMFXX or something like that) will lead to less headaches with rate manip…

I highly recommend the Fidelity CMA (Cash Management Account), it behaves mostly like a checking account but it autosweeps into SPAXX so you get the best of both worlds - your money is instantly accessible but you get the earnings of a money market account. I no longer bother with a HYSA. It's not a bank account so you will still need a backup checking account if you need Zelle or similar, and it has no way to deposi…

+1, and wires are free.

Re: Capital One to acquire Brex for $5.15B

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For many?

many/most employees

Employees get options at common stock prices. The valuations you see, like $12bn, are for preferred stock. So no employees got stock priced at $12bn, but all of them get paid at a $5.15bn valuation.

Not saying they did well, but depending on the 409a valuations, they still might have made money.

Edit: friends, if you’re going to downvote please leave a comment as to why. It’s okay to disagree! There’s a lot of misleading FUD in these discussions about equity. It’s helpful for everyone to hear those sides.

Re: Capital One to acquire Brex for $5.15B

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I strongly suspect they shifted to RSUs at those valuations.

It seems unlikely that regular employees would be issued RSUs. Tax is due at vest, and you can't liquidate to fund the tax bill.

The usual move here is "double trigger" RSUs that don't vest until a liquidity event, thus no taxes due until said liquidity event.

Re: Capital One to acquire Brex for $5.15B

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I strongly suspect they shifted to RSUs at those valuations.

It seems unlikely that regular employees would be issued RSUs. Tax is due at vest, and you can't liquidate to fund the tax bill.

There's double trigger RSUs and so on that allow you to have reasonable tax treatment, due to the theoretical threat of loss if liquidity isn't available. I worked at a company that had this at least while I was there.

Re: Capital One to acquire Brex for $5.15B

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They refused my business because I didn't have SV VC money Chase got it instead, but they are losing it next month because of their shenanigans and greed Wish crypto hadn't been co-opted by the same people and worse

I'd recommend US Bank.

I am with US Bank for 20 yrs... they will not do dark stuff Chase does, but they are really not competitive. I don't want to change them because others are not significantly better.

Re: Capital One to acquire Brex for $5.15B

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(Frame of reference: US only) That's a shame, given 18-25 is just the age where a credit card skimmer or online card fraud causing a big fraudulent withdrawal from your checking account, and weeks of waiting to get it back, could be devastating. This has happened to people in my family (likely from gas stations) but we only use credit cards except to pull cash from ATMs, so we only suffer a temporary dip in our avail…

That's way less common in Europe. Most places are chip and pin or NFC and that limits skimming quite a lot.

Thankfully the US is very slowly catching up. We actually have NFC at most payment terminals already.

Even better, our small town (pop. 100) gas station upgraded their pumps a while back, and they have NFC! Finally my normal fill-up location is skimmer-resistant. Or is it skimmer-proof?

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