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From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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You are missing the point. I'm sure Mossad etc is on the ground. I wish them luck. But that's not the driving force for the 100s of thousands of protestors on the ground willing to stand against the Mullahs thugs. They live under a theocratic boot heel and are struggling to get out. They can use all the support they can get.

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Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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You are missing the point. I'm sure Mossad etc is on the ground. I wish them luck. But that's not the driving force for the 100s of thousands of protestors on the ground willing to stand against the Mullahs thugs. They live under a theocratic boot heel and are struggling to get out. They can use all the support they can get.

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Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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post #131
post #127

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You are missing the point. I'm sure Mossad etc is on the ground. I wish them luck. But that's not the driving force for the 100s of thousands of protestors on the ground willing to stand against the Mullahs thugs. They live under a theocratic boot heel and are struggling to get out. They can use all the support they can get.

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UN votes across decades have officially labeled Zionism as racism. International courts, from the ICJ to the ICC, despite massive pressure (& sanctions) have officially labeled their actions as genocidal & worthy of prosecution.

(the above are facts, not opinions)

Yet your comment gets downvoted. And others get to say how Israel is a harmonious place for Muslims/Palestinians/Arabs ... and their posts are ... untouched.

Even George Orwell didn't envisage this ...

(and its a sad commentary on those who run this site)

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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You are missing the point. I'm sure Mossad etc is on the ground. I wish them luck. But that's not the driving force for the 100s of thousands of protestors on the ground willing to stand against the Mullahs thugs. They live under a theocratic boot heel and are struggling to get out. They can use all the support they can get.

Sure, just ignore the sanctions applied against the people of Iran by western colonialist countries for decades upon decades. You think that hasn’t had an impact on society there? When my wife and I were planning our wedding here in the US 26 years ago, I spoke with someone in the state department then about allowing her family members to attend our wedding in the USA. They were very clear that, they would not allow that as the goal was to impose US restrictions on the citizens of Iran rather than just the government.

Imagine economic sanctions for much more than 30 years, western spy agencies actively engaged in espionage and injury against your country. What would your economy be like?

Is it any wonder nations are engaged in BRICS to escape American global hegemony?

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Palestinians certainly aren’t in the occupied territories. Nor are Christians. Israel is an apartheid state which legalizes taking farms, homes and whatever else by “settlers “ using violence to steal and murder.

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Why can't they use starlink?

Starlink is illegal in Iran. Being a foreign journalist is a huge red flag in totalitarian countries, making it harder to smuggle in illegal devices than for the average citizen or visitor. And because journalists are probably under surveillance by the regime, it's harder for them to obtain Starlink terminals in the country than for the average person.

The government was ignoring Starlink until it was being used by western clandestine agencies & Israel to foment violence and burning down property. People were being paid for each act of violence they committed, by those spy agencies.

The Iranian government then used Chinese tech to block Starlink, shutdown the external internet and the violence stopped.

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Not going to defend the islamic republic with its massacres, but if there is no racial element there is no apartheid, no need to overload a precise term. This is simply turning down methods of communications to reduce protestors ability to coordinate and enable mass killings

Apartheid isn't only about race. It can be about genre. It obviously exists in Iran. There's also a long history of Persians vs Arabs, an weaponised islam.

Do you mean Sunni vs Shia? I don’t think that is a reasonable statement by you. Will you also apply that term to Ireland?

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Perhaps next time brave Persian people will figure a way to do all of it without internet, as it turned the weakest point of the whole effort.

weakest point is fire guns on one side and no guns to speak of on the other side. To understand the scale of Iranian killing - for 23 days of protests up to 20K people killed - that is half of the killing rate in Ukraine war which is a full scale war with a 1000km battle line and more than 1M of soldiers shooting at each other.

okay I can't wait to see then how this works out in the USA where guns can answer from all directions. Is this you're implying? what is discussed here is lack of internet, not the fact that fcuking regime obnoxiously killed thousands of protesters shooting them in the face like rats. Is this what you came here to read, because it's not all over the internet and quite apparent for everyone?

But, wait, this is Iran ran by the revolutionary guards... What did anyone expect? Was it right to tell this people - help is on the way, when there was none?

Sorry, downvote as much as you like, but I'll reiterate - the brave Persian people will do it better next way, as they now know tis entirely up to them, no help comes. And they are super brave to do what they did, where did you exactly got wrong what I wrote??

Honestly - the weakest point is and will always be communication, once you loose it you fire in the dark. Like many other revolts, this also was heavily dependent on internet coordination, means controlled by the government.

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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There has been much prognostication about the internet blackout but it misses the real issue. The internet blackout only works perfectly when there are no media backed journalists on the ground. The absolute absence of any reporting from foreign journalists on the ground anywhere in Iran is striking. There was even some reporting from Tiananmen Square in 1989, and from Baghdad in 1991. News media has ceased to be a m…

There are plenty of Western journalists in Iran, but they are subject to the same internet blackout as everyone else. Embassies can use satellite communications due to diplomatic immunity, while journalists are just average nobodies who face extra scrutiny due to their jobs.

I would be surprised if there many western journalists left in Iran…

Here is an excellent podcast from a Washington post journalist that was captured and held as a hostage - it’s called 544 days (that’s the amount of time he was jailed there)

https://crooked.com/podcast-series/544-days/

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