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Macron says €300B in EU savings sent to the US every year will be invested in EU

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When will the EU understand that they have the GOAT Paul Graham across the channel in the UK? Open YCombinator Paris or London: Capital would flow to him.

drop capital gains tax on EU stonks and watch the flight. there are a million ways they could make this attractive

confused sounds in voiced glottal fricative What capital gains tax?

Re: Macron says €300B in EU savings sent to the US every year will be invested in EU

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There's no "enforced savings" that I know of in Europe. 3.50% in the US sounds extremely low to me. It has fallen a bit recently but the savings rate was about 25% in France in 2020. Common knowledge says to strive to save at the very least 10% of one's revenue around here.

There is a very large and growing portion of the US that maintains no savings at all. In fact it's the opposite and many are slowly spending their way into perpetual credit card debt.

It's essential to the way the system works. One person's money is another person's debt. Normally the government would take on enough debt to ensure everyone had money, but the USA is a weird case.

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How many percentage of GDP is healthcare in the US? 10, 20%? Healthcare is almost entirely public in France (pension also mostly are), so I'm not sure that your comparison makes sense.

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Re: Macron says €300B in EU savings sent to the US every year will be invested in EU

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> Macron is making up numbers So is Trump. This is all just response to bullying. "I got big muscles" "Oh yeah, I got big muscles too" This all is happening because America elected a criminal clown, twice.

Let me fix that for you. This is all happening because the institutions in America failed to deliver for working-class people for over four decades, and Americans got fed up, elected a billionaire willing to be a bulldozer of those institutions and the systems that work for knowledge workers, twice.

And how does that work for them?

Re: Macron says €300B in EU savings sent to the US every year will be invested in EU

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TIL EU savings rate is far more than US. 18.79% vs 3.50% Guessing that's somehow counting enforced deductions off paycheques. Would be a wild difference if not. https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/personal-savings https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/personal-savings

There's no "enforced savings" that I know of in Europe. 3.50% in the US sounds extremely low to me. It has fallen a bit recently but the savings rate was about 25% in France in 2020. Common knowledge says to strive to save at the very least 10% of one's revenue around here.

It seems like savings include pension ([1], but it is a bit unclear to me) , and that is a kind of forced saving (as in many places in Europe you can't choose to not get pension and get it as cash to spend instead).

1: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...

Re: Macron says €300B in EU savings sent to the US every year will be invested in EU

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Contrary to the implication, the Swedish fund that possibly sold $8b of its $100b worth of US Treasuries did not cite politics as its reason for doing so, and no part of the article backs up that claim. Additionally, selling out of the US dollar as the fed aimed to cut rates and as the dollar declined from historic highs against the Euro seems sensible regardless of politics. Denmark has been exiting foreign bonds fo…

>Contrary to the implication, the Swedish fund that possibly sold $8b of its $100b worth of US Treasuries did not cite politics as its reason for doing so Which doesn't mean it wasn't the reason.

Maybe it was more because the president is a fool and less because he is a jerk?

Re: Macron says €300B in EU savings sent to the US every year will be invested in EU

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TIL EU savings rate is far more than US. 18.79% vs 3.50% Guessing that's somehow counting enforced deductions off paycheques. Would be a wild difference if not. https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/personal-savings https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/personal-savings

The US can always print more money to fund its institutions, but other countries have to save theirs. Sure, they can print more euro but when so much stuff they need is traded in USD, that's not nearly as effective as when the US prints more USD.

> The US can always print more money to fund its institutions, but other countries have to save theirs.

That only works if there are takers for US bonds otherwise all this will do is devalue the USD.

Re: Macron says €300B in EU savings sent to the US every year will be invested in EU

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TIL EU savings rate is far more than US. 18.79% vs 3.50% Guessing that's somehow counting enforced deductions off paycheques. Would be a wild difference if not. https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/personal-savings https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/personal-savings

Also helps that most people don't start with an extremely large student loan when they have finished their education.

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The EU can’t even get a Mercosur deal closed after 30 years. I think this will probably happen in another 60 years.

What makes it more ridiculous, is that fact that we from the EU are shouting US is getting isolated, but some of the biggest economies in the world do not want to trade with 4 countries from the 3rd world, because we think will get bankrupt because of that.

I'm sure everyone would be happy to purchase stuff that respect our own standards. We forbid our farmers to use some chemicals because they are bad for health and nature, it would be completely stupid to start purchasing food abroad that is made using those chemicals, don't you agree?

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TIL EU savings rate is far more than US. 18.79% vs 3.50% Guessing that's somehow counting enforced deductions off paycheques. Would be a wild difference if not. https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/personal-savings https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/personal-savings

There's no "enforced savings" that I know of in Europe. 3.50% in the US sounds extremely low to me. It has fallen a bit recently but the savings rate was about 25% in France in 2020. Common knowledge says to strive to save at the very least 10% of one's revenue around here.

The UK has "enforced savings" in the form of auto-enrollment pensions for over 10 years. Looks like Ireland is just starting to do it too.
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