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The mushroom making people hallucinate tiny humans
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Re: The mushroom making people hallucinate tiny humans
#12Previous discussion:
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#13This sounds like a variation of Machine Elves -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine#Entity_enco... Those are primarily associated with DMT (the one time I tried it, I too had such an encounter and I didn't know it was a thing until years later). I'm sure I'll be corrected on this but I think DMT and Psilocybin ultimately affect the same pathways so it's just more evidence that Machine Elves are real! (/…
They are both serotonin analogues, but they definitely yield different experiences.
In chemistry it often only takes a single atom difference to totally and radically change a molecule's properties.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
The mushrooms that the article talks about do not contain psilocybin (it's still not clear what psychoactive compound they contain), but you are correct in that DMT and psilocybin, at comparable doses, have extremely similar subjective effects.
Avid conosour of both DMT and Psilocybin and would not characterize the effects as “extremely similar”. Psychedelic yes, but profoundly different at their core in heroic doses—at least from my vantage point.
Just curious, nn-DMT or 5meo-DMT? I haven't tried either but have heard nn-DMT to be more the machine elves type experience and 5meo-DMT to elicit a feeling of not existing in the physical world anymore.
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#15But can we grow them in the UK?
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#16Yes, but where can I get some?
Yes, also curious where you might locate a few kilos of said fungi?
There are other species of the same genus that grow in southern Europe and north America, but if any contain the same compounds they don't appear in the literature. More research needed.
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#17> "It sounded so bizarre that there could be a mushroom out there causing fairytale-like visions reported across cultures and time," Domnauer says.
Now I'm kinda curious whether fairy tales are the result of these visions or the other way around. Probably both.
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#18Wonder if it will turn out to be related to muscimol that is in amanita mushrooms, as that is always described as more delirious and dream-like
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#19Almost all of the reports from people I know who have done ayahuasca have reported seeing "elves". It's not only common, they say it's not a "valid" trip unless you do, and even converse with them.
Though I don't know any reports of profound conversations.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Avid conosour of both DMT and Psilocybin and would not characterize the effects as “extremely similar”. Psychedelic yes, but profoundly different at their core in heroic doses—at least from my vantage point.
Just curious, nn-DMT or 5meo-DMT? I haven't tried either but have heard nn-DMT to be more the machine elves type experience and 5meo-DMT to elicit a feeling of not existing in the physical world anymore.
Usually when people just say DMT they mean nn-DMT (which is a lot more visual/weird and can bring on the "elves" at breakthrough dosage). 5-meo-dmt(/bufo) is much more of a felt thing, but can definitely have some visual effects (I usually get enveloped in the bright white light of god before dissolving into everything/nothing, ymmv).