Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

curl.se

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

351–360 of 653 posts

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

#351

Post by direwolf20 »

vivzkestrel wrote: post #146

- I notice a lot of stuff in github issues all the time - For example, there is this +1 comment pasted like 500 times that I have seen a lot over issues - Cant we have a github regex bot of sorts ^(\W+)?\+(\W+)?1(\W+)?$ that removes all such comments? or let the author of the repo control what kind of regex based stuff to remove? - I know regex kind of sounds old fashioned in the age of LLMs but it is kinda simple to…

Yes you can, and those comments will then say "plus one", which you will add to your regex, and then they will say "++", which you will add to your regex, and then they will say "I agree", which you will add to your regex, and then they will say "me too", ......

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

#352

Post by melvinmelih »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #230
koliber wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen an interesting behavior in India. If I ask someone on the street for directions, they will always give me an answer, even if they don't know. If they don't know, they'll make something up. This was strange. I asked a lot of Indian people about it and they said that it has to do with "saving face". Saying "I don't know" is a disgraceful thing. So if someone does not know the answer, they make something up in…

> I've seen an interesting behavior in India. If I ask someone on the street for directions, they will always give me an answer, even if they don't know. If they don't know, they'll make something up. Isn’t this the precise failure pattern that everybody shits on LLMs for?

--

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

#353

Post by MBCook »

dotancohen wrote: post #18
jraph wrote: post #3

Context: [1, 2] > Open source code library cURL is removing the possibility to earn money by reporting bugs, hoping that this will reduce the volume of AI slop reports. > cURL has been flooded with AI-generated error reports. Now one of the incentives to create them will go away. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46701733 [2] https://etn.se/index.php/nyheter/72808-curl-removes-bug-boun...

Money for a report and a patch, with convincing test cases, might be worthwhile. Even if a machine generates them.

What was a kind design to thank good contributors is now a lottery.

Throw enough AI crap at enough projects and you may get a payout.

The incentives fail in the face of no-effort flooding. They accidentally encourage it.

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

#354

Post by lostlogin »

jcims wrote: post #257
freakynit wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indian here (~15+ years in tech). I've seen this behavior a lot, and unfortunately, I did some of this myself earlier in my career. Based on my own experience, here are a few reasons (could be a lot more): 1. Unlike most developed countries, in India (and many other develping countries), people in authority are expected to be respected unconditinally(almost). Questioning a manager, teacher, or senior is often seen as…

As a gent with some years under his belt, I have to humbly admit that it was quite late in my career before I realized how much culture influences how people operate. Two separate incidents with two different cultural contexts brought it to the fore about ten years ago. I sought some advice from a senior exec that I was close with and he just laid it out in very unflinching way. It was just one conversation but it ha…

Any chance you could expand that story?

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

#355

Post by exe34 »

causalscience wrote: post #44
nchmy wrote: post #11

I've been helping a bit with OWASP documentation lately and there's been a surge of Indian students eagerly opening nonsensical issues and PRs and all of the communication and code is clearly 100% LLMs. They'll even talk back and forth with each other. It's a huge headache for the maintainers. I suggested following what Ghostty does where everything starts as discussions - only maintainers create issues, and PRs can…

> Indian students Is this cultural? I ran a small business some years ago (later failed) and was paying for contract work to various people. At the I perceived the pattern that Indian contractors would never ever ask for clarifications, would never say they didn't know something, would never say they didn't understand something, etc. Instead they just ran with whatever they happened to have in their mind, until I cal…

they probably assumed you knew what you were asking for.

it's interesting how it parallels the issue with llms today, they are basically perverse instantiation genies. your wish is my command.

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

#356

Post by ectospheno »

amiga386 wrote: post #235
jb1991 wrote: post #200

It sounds funny, but it's not. I once issued a bug to them that didn't have enough information about how to reproduce... and I was lambasted on Reddit and eventually just deleted my account there it was so terrifying. Some dev teams do not mess around. In fact I've shied off most social media since and no longer issue bug reports to any company, I was scarred deep over the treatment.

That is sad, sorry to hear it. But at the same time, sometimes you have to really persevere to get a bug fixed. Consider the perspective of the maintainer of a popular project: to them, you're one person in a big queue of people all reporting problems. Most issues turn out to be "I need free technical support, which you don't offer, so I'll phrase it in the form of a bug", and it saps their time to look into the deta…

[flagged]

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

#357

Post by GaryBluto »

bob1029 wrote: post #170

This note isn't going to stop even 1% of the jackasses who would have submitted AI slop. There are much better ways to communicate the intended message. This comes off as childish to me and makes me think that I'd rather not contribute to the project.

> This comes off as childish to me and makes me think that I'd rather not contribute to the project.

It's unfortunately the new normal, with FFmpeg's core team acting similarly. No doubt the result of what is considered socially acceptable expanding in ways it probably shouldn't.

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

#358

Post by exe34 »

overfeed wrote: post #328
wolvoleo wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but I have noticed that somehow it's hard for them to say "no". This is impolite apparently. So you ask: "Can you do this before friday" and they say yes and then don't do it at all. Which of course is a lot less polite and causes a lot of friction. However this was a thing 10-15 years ago. Lately I've not seen that.

> Which of course is a lot less polite and causes a lot of friction. Most cultures have this, but it goes mostly unnoticed from the inside because one can read between the lines. "How are you?" can be asked just to be polite, and can cause friction when answered truthfully (rather than just politely, as the cultural dance requires). An Eastern European may not appreciate the insincerity of such a question.

similarly, in the west, when your boss takes you to HR for an honest and open discussion, it's not really an honest and open discussion. normies know this instinctively. I didn't.

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

#359

Post by AlanYx »

bakugo wrote: post #246
koliber wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen an interesting behavior in India. If I ask someone on the street for directions, they will always give me an answer, even if they don't know. If they don't know, they'll make something up. This was strange. I asked a lot of Indian people about it and they said that it has to do with "saving face". Saying "I don't know" is a disgraceful thing. So if someone does not know the answer, they make something up in…

> This was strange. I asked a lot of Indian people about it and they said that it has to do with "saving face". Saying "I don't know" is a disgraceful thing. I've recently learned that this particular type of "saving face" has a name: "izzat". Look that up if you want to know more.

A lot of the stuff written on "izzat" is questionable or wrong, but it is true that India has a collective concept of saving face. This can be an adjustment even if you're used to the East Asian concept of saving face.

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

#360

Post by eldaisfish »

dbtablesorrows wrote: post #287
duckydude20 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i f8cking hate being born here. volume of low quality content, dsa/leetcode, etc. is so high, good people/content gets left out. networking, connections, nepotism so much high. getting job based on actual talent very rare. MNCs which are good outside are so much sh8t here; well capitalism doesn't give a f8ck anyways.

I think you'll get downvoted to oblivion because outsiders often don't realize the ridiculousness of the whole thing. I will try to give some context. To give an example, the CSE undergrad from an average Indian college would've done 500 - 1000 leetcode "problems" for practice. But have little to no idea on how to survive in a UNIX shell, or to troubleshoot an actual problem. Hell, half of them haven't written more t…

this is a problem with all indian "education". I work in renewable energy and regularly chat with other Indians at IEEE conferences who are looking for work in the West.

These supposed electrical "engineers" have an IEEE "paper" to their name but regularly confuse power and energy. They have no curiosity, no interest in their work, atrocious communication skills (not language, communication) and swarm you like piranhas once word spreads.

All this combines to devalue Indian degrees and the reputation of Indian STEM talent. The genuinely good people are drowned under this avalanche and there's not much you can do to help them or to find them.

Post reply on HN