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From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Post by navigate8310 »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #45
navigate8310 wrote: post #23

> To mitigate the costs of its shutdown, the Iranian government has created an internal national internet and appears to be in the process of building a “whitelisting” system to allow certain individuals and services internet access while blocking the rest. If these measures successfully enable an unpopular Iranian government to remain in power, we can expect to see them replicated elsewhere. Another emerging country…

If you want things to change we need to start going after the source of the governments power, the people that vote for them. T

Trickling dose of brainrot propaganda and general level of incompetence of the people has made everyone numb. Youths for all care finding love and reels, boomers are content with whatever situation they are in as they consider it an ideal. Almost everyone is not made aware of anything that brings about 2 sides of any story. Empowering and thought provoking debates are frowned upon. The government will try to self-destructive itself, in order to disapprove critics. It is this mentality and situation the present government and bureaucracy amplifies and exploits to the maximum extent. I'm not critical of the present machinery but any successive legislature and judiciary will do the same.

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Post by g-unit33 »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #45
navigate8310 wrote: post #23

> To mitigate the costs of its shutdown, the Iranian government has created an internal national internet and appears to be in the process of building a “whitelisting” system to allow certain individuals and services internet access while blocking the rest. If these measures successfully enable an unpopular Iranian government to remain in power, we can expect to see them replicated elsewhere. Another emerging country…

If you want things to change we need to start going after the source of the governments power, the people that vote for them. T

Even if 90% of the country marks the box against the regime, they’ll still announce a 90% 'landslide' victory. Voting doesn't matter, when you print your own outcome

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Post by GaggiX »

A friend of mine (from Iran) managed to send me a few messages on January 18th via Telegram (Telegram is very popular in Iran) when the situation was though to be resolving and then nothing, blackout again.

And even when the blackout was not present, my friend had to used some complex V2Ray server (in Iran) to another server (in Germany) to connect and it was shared by other people, so if he cannot connect probably 99% of other people in his area cannot also connect outside.

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Post by gsf_emergency_6 »

baxtr wrote: post #49
gsf_emergency_6 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might have missed something here "current dollar valuations are more appropriate. Nominal GDP measured in these units are plotted in Figure 2." https://econbrowser.com/archives/2009/06/how_important_i_2#:... (What do those bumps correspond to?)

Yes you have missed something. I wrote per capita .

That's tough. I did miss that. Cross my heart and hope 1 child policy will payoff as well as WWII

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Post by jltsiren »

ipv6ipv4 wrote: post #34

There has been much prognostication about the internet blackout but it misses the real issue. The internet blackout only works perfectly when there are no media backed journalists on the ground. The absolute absence of any reporting from foreign journalists on the ground anywhere in Iran is striking. There was even some reporting from Tiananmen Square in 1989, and from Baghdad in 1991. News media has ceased to be a m…

There are plenty of Western journalists in Iran, but they are subject to the same internet blackout as everyone else. Embassies can use satellite communications due to diplomatic immunity, while journalists are just average nobodies who face extra scrutiny due to their jobs.

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Post by Symbiote »

alephnerd wrote: post #3

Iran has been rolling out the National Information Network (essentially a whitelisted internet) for a couple years now after the Green Revolution [0]. Iran has a surprisingly robust domestic ecosystem of hyperscalers [1] and telco infra [6][7] built out over the past decade with limited outside involvement and a severe sanctions regime, and have even started exporting Iranian IT services to Uganda [2], Kenya [3], Sou…

> Iran has a surprisingly robust domestic ecosystem of hyperscalers [1]

This is already repeated by the Google Search AI summary, which is unfortunate since your reference (from 2012) doesn't seem to back it up.

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Post by culi »

alephnerd wrote: post #3

Iran has been rolling out the National Information Network (essentially a whitelisted internet) for a couple years now after the Green Revolution [0]. Iran has a surprisingly robust domestic ecosystem of hyperscalers [1] and telco infra [6][7] built out over the past decade with limited outside involvement and a severe sanctions regime, and have even started exporting Iranian IT services to Uganda [2], Kenya [3], Sou…

That first link you shared is fascinating. This group also published this incredible report on an AI-enabled influence operation aimed at toppling Iran

https://citizenlab.ca/research/2025-10-ai-enabled-io-aimed-a...

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Post by lucasRW »

trhway wrote: post #26
baxtr wrote: post #8

> Had authorities withdrawn IPv4 routes, as they did with IPv6, Iran would have become completely unreachable, as Egypt was in January 2011. By keeping IPv4 routes in circulation, Iranian authorities can selectively grant full internet access to specific users while denying it to the broader population. As of late, we’ve seen a few measures like the restoration of transit from Rostelecom and the return of routes orig…

The Rostelecom mentioning isn't just an accident - in Russia they have been practicing whitelisting more and more by turning the Internet off, except for whitelisted sites, under the guise of safety measures during drone attacks (which is like almost every day/night), various high level visits, mass public events, etc.

"under the guise of safety measures "

>> Like in Europe then. :o)

"It's to protect the children"

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