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From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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There has been much prognostication about the internet blackout but it misses the real issue. The internet blackout only works perfectly when there are no media backed journalists on the ground. The absolute absence of any reporting from foreign journalists on the ground anywhere in Iran is striking. There was even some reporting from Tiananmen Square in 1989, and from Baghdad in 1991. News media has ceased to be a m…

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Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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As an Iranian in Iran who is now connected, I have a request: Please tell google make colab available behind the safe browsing IP. Google's safe browsing IP is usually the #1 whitelisted IP in internet blackouts. Having colab on this IP allows tech people to ssh into their servers, and bootstrap connections based on the available protocols at the time.

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Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

#43
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A subtle reason for preferring negotiations towards mutually beneficial ends-- sanctions can supercharge tech adoption

Yeah, or even just protectionism. Most economists I've heard say that protectionism doesn't work, but I feel like China being quiet and protectionist in the infancy of its key industries was like the move of the century for them.

Neoclassical economics is quite clear that targeted protectionism is desirable under certain exceptions.

As for China, they would be more wealthy without the meddling of their government. There's no reason they couldn't be like Taiwan, but bigger. The Chinese people got to where they are in spite of their anchor.

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

#44

There has been much prognostication about the internet blackout but it misses the real issue. The internet blackout only works perfectly when there are no media backed journalists on the ground. The absolute absence of any reporting from foreign journalists on the ground anywhere in Iran is striking. There was even some reporting from Tiananmen Square in 1989, and from Baghdad in 1991. News media has ceased to be a m…

Immediately when the blackout started an Iranian living abroad told me there will be a massacre. No journalists needed to know that but journalists do bring credibility to a claim. The tiny part of the population that is whitelisted is spreading lies, which doesn't help.

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

#45

> To mitigate the costs of its shutdown, the Iranian government has created an internal national internet and appears to be in the process of building a “whitelisting” system to allow certain individuals and services internet access while blocking the rest. If these measures successfully enable an unpopular Iranian government to remain in power, we can expect to see them replicated elsewhere. Another emerging country…

If you want things to change we need to start going after the source of the governments power, the people that vote for them. T

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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post #31
post #8

> Had authorities withdrawn IPv4 routes, as they did with IPv6, Iran would have become completely unreachable, as Egypt was in January 2011. By keeping IPv4 routes in circulation, Iranian authorities can selectively grant full internet access to specific users while denying it to the broader population. As of late, we’ve seen a few measures like the restoration of transit from Rostelecom and the return of routes orig…

Not going to defend the islamic republic with its massacres, but if there is no racial element there is no apartheid, no need to overload a precise term. This is simply turning down methods of communications to reduce protestors ability to coordinate and enable mass killings

Couldn't they just not kill people in mass?

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

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post #31
post #8

> Had authorities withdrawn IPv4 routes, as they did with IPv6, Iran would have become completely unreachable, as Egypt was in January 2011. By keeping IPv4 routes in circulation, Iranian authorities can selectively grant full internet access to specific users while denying it to the broader population. As of late, we’ve seen a few measures like the restoration of transit from Rostelecom and the return of routes orig…

Not going to defend the islamic republic with its massacres, but if there is no racial element there is no apartheid, no need to overload a precise term. This is simply turning down methods of communications to reduce protestors ability to coordinate and enable mass killings

I understand what you are saying and I was thinking about it when I wrote my comment.

I still stand by the term. Apartheid literally means "apartness". Even though the segregation in this case is not on a racial basis they still classify their population into two major blocks. Some have full rights, others have none.

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

#48
post #31
post #8

> Had authorities withdrawn IPv4 routes, as they did with IPv6, Iran would have become completely unreachable, as Egypt was in January 2011. By keeping IPv4 routes in circulation, Iranian authorities can selectively grant full internet access to specific users while denying it to the broader population. As of late, we’ve seen a few measures like the restoration of transit from Rostelecom and the return of routes orig…

Not going to defend the islamic republic with its massacres, but if there is no racial element there is no apartheid, no need to overload a precise term. This is simply turning down methods of communications to reduce protestors ability to coordinate and enable mass killings

Apartheid isn't only about race. It can be about genre. It obviously exists in Iran. There's also a long history of Persians vs Arabs, an weaponised islam.

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

#49
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure tbh. China could have been like Japan per capita. Protectionism puts a big cap on economic growth potential.

I might have missed something here "current dollar valuations are more appropriate. Nominal GDP measured in these units are plotted in Figure 2." https://econbrowser.com/archives/2009/06/how_important_i_2#:... (What do those bumps correspond to?)

Yes you have missed something. I wrote per capita.

Re: From stealth blackout to whitelisting: Inside the Iranian shutdown

#50

> To mitigate the costs of its shutdown, the Iranian government has created an internal national internet and appears to be in the process of building a “whitelisting” system to allow certain individuals and services internet access while blocking the rest. If these measures successfully enable an unpopular Iranian government to remain in power, we can expect to see them replicated elsewhere. Another emerging country…

If you want things to change we need to start going after the source of the governments power, the people that vote for them. T

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