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Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

#51
post #37

"Avoid the pain of Windows 8" And say hello to the pain of not finding suitable drivers for half your devices.

I literally can't remember the last time I had driver issues in Ubuntu. The last time I had one in Linux at ALL was early Raspberry Pi builds that didn't include Broadcom drivers. And even that was easy to fix.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

#52
post #20

Say, has somebody come up with a clever way for me to try this and then revert if I'd rather stick with 12.04 LTS? Besides, of course, backing up and restoring everything?

Uhm, don't do an inplace upgrade anyway, they suck. If you have /home on another drive, there's no "backup" or "restore" stage.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

#53
post #44
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stabbing others in the back is no way to behave, especially when they're pumping what the user types in the launcher straight at amazon and closing bugs when people complain that their launcher commands are showing inappropriate images.

Lots of people are quick to jump on this "Avoid the pain of Windows 8" comment but people need to relax. Their is something major being overlooked here. Ubuntu is giving away their OS for FREE. $0 Windows 8 will be cheaper than previous Windows upgrades but lets not forget about the pillars of free software and why to support it.

'Free' and 'polite' are not mutually exclusive. The first pillar of free software is not '$0 free', it's 'respect'.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

#54
Just upgraded. If anyone is running the open AMD/ATI drivers and the UI becomes slow and unusable you should try to install the proprietary drivers. It made the UI snappy again because everything seems to require hardware acceleration now.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

#55
post #15

It also works almost flawlessly out of the box on the Retina MacBook Pro. The only thing that requires adding is the Broadcom b43 modules and possibly the proprietary nVidia drivers. Very impressive.

It does? Isn't everything tiny? What resolution is it using?

Yes, it defaults to full retina resolution (2880x1800). Although it doesn't look too bad like that, and Ubuntu let's you modify the UI font size, I'd probably run at a more reasonable 1920x1200.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

#56

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-shoppin... Make sure you disable the shopping lens before searching in public. Amazon searches can be NSFW! Don't search for analyze in a school or Saudi Arabia. I think that this is unacceptable default behaviour but currently seems to be a WON'T FIX.

There is a separate bug for the same issue that has been marked as fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-lens-shopping/+bug/1060979

I'm not saying that you are wrong but that fix seems to about suppressing error results and a quick glance at the diff doesn't immediately look like it introduces any filter (unless all images are suppressed from Amazon).

If the bug I linked to is fixed it should be marked as such quickly because theRegister's initial review of 12.10 links to it and refers heavily to it http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/18/ubuntu_12_10_review/

Either it is fixed (and that should be properly indicated) or it should be taken seriously and fixed VERY quickly. The attitude of don't care/won't fix isn't acceptable for a public release by a supposedly professional commercial organisation or really anything beyond hobbyist scale. Canonical/Ubuntu is too big to let this default behaviour out of the door. If they can't fix it instantly they should disable the whole feature (as default) until they can fix it.

Edit: I've checked the diff again and maybe combined with server side changes it may resolve the issue. The point remains that the open issue should be properly closed.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

#57
post #20

Say, has somebody come up with a clever way for me to try this and then revert if I'd rather stick with 12.04 LTS? Besides, of course, backing up and restoring everything?

Install it on a USB key. If you want to try the upgrade but have a perfect backup of 12.04 LTS, you can image your drive (depending on resources) with the "dd" utility. WARNING: be very careful with this. You can easily destroy things with dd.

From the USB install;

  dd if=/dev/{ubuntuDrivePath} of={someOtherDrive}/{backupFile}.img
This creates a 1 to 1 representation of your drive. For example,

  dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/data/backups/workstation.img
You will of course need to use an additional drive to store your backup.

To restore, boot into USB again, and execute:

  dd if={yourBackup} of=/dev/{ubuntuDrivePath}

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

#58
post #20

Say, has somebody come up with a clever way for me to try this and then revert if I'd rather stick with 12.04 LTS? Besides, of course, backing up and restoring everything?

Uhm, don't do an inplace upgrade anyway, they suck. If you have /home on another drive, there's no "backup" or "restore" stage.

No they don't suck, they rock. This isn't windows, and I shouldn't have to lost my setup to upgrade to the latest distro.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

#59
post #2

"Avoid the pain of Windows 8." Well done Canonical..well done. Here's a nice alternative for those having problems with the site. http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/

"Avoid the pain of Windows 8." I've been running Windows 8 since the RTM went to MSDN. I adjusted to the cheese-moving pain of Windows 8 within a week. Four months into Ubuntu with Unity I eventually adjusted to the cheese-moving pain of Unity by switching to Mint. Ubuntu has no leg to stand on when it comes to new versions of an OS making unwanted changes to UX. [Before anyone chimes in here, I know you can set up U…

Same here. Windows 8 is a clear improvement over Windows 7 once you acclimate to the new interface (which you only need to spend a tiny fraction of your time using anyway).

I've noticed that a lot of the criticism comes from people who tried Windows 8 in a VM, where it's difficult to hit the corners, and people who dabbled with dual booting it or using it on secondary machines, without truly committing to learning the new interface.

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